The 'New Moon film' thread

[Weave]

Edward totally won me over the first time through, and when I see the start of New Moon and most of Twilight, I love him and Bella. Then Jacob, and reality with him, comes crashing in.

 

Can I also point out, I freaking adore Native Americans - that reeeeeeeeally helps Jake out a LOT.

 

[Weave]

True, Jake's aversion to the Cullens is intense and I did think long and hard about that particular point as a result.This is the conclusion I came to:

 

Vampires are evil by default - good vampires are the exception to the rule.

Werewolves (or at least, these specific shape-shifters as they're not real werewolves) are good by default - they originated as a response to hostility and attacks by vampires. They are self-proclaimed protectors of humans.

 

SO, Jake's blood, as the (super)natural response to the bad blood of demons kinda gives him the right to hate the Cullens. Or at least, to be slower to trust them. The Cullens should actually realise that the werewolves are protectors - I don't know if that applies to all werewolves, but, the Cullens (or Edward at least) admit to knowing the Quileutes are actually shape-shifters, designed to protect. Either way, the Cullens should be proving themselves to the Quileutes, whether they like it or not. Not insulting Jake and in Ed's case practically banning her from seeing Jake when the safest place for her is at La Push.

 

So I'm with Jake on that one too

 

Oh and r.e. the suicide thing: being a vampire is no excuse. If he were human, he'd be put in therapy. None of the others are THAT protective of Bella; (his obsession is largely based on her being a clumsy human). It's not normal. I don't find it at all attractive. I like that Jake allows her to make her own mistakes, but minds her without her ever knowing (when she thought he was ignoring her, he was actually wolfing round her house, and then he takes up double shifts without a word to anyone in Eclipse - Edward would rather lock her in a house.)

 

Jacob and Edward are very different, and as much as I like Edward, I see his flaws and at times, I have thought 'back off dude, she will work it out'.

 

Not all people suicidal tendencies are in therapy and he wouldn't be because let's face it, they would know he is a vampire. It is really hard to define them without Edward and Bella looking like obsessed maniacs!

 

And yet I still love the Edward

[Nollaig]

Not all people suicidal tendencies are in therapy and he wouldn't be because let's face it, they would know he is a vampire.

 

Not at all, but you have to conceed it's not actually normal to want to kill yourself over another person? That has to be one of the rarest reasons on the list - hence Romeo and Juliet being considered a classic love story I'd imagine My only point is, he get away with psychotic behaviour because he's a vampire, when that's not really a good excuse anyway.

 

I love Edward too, though, he's quite likeable when he's not being melodramatic and I like that he's flawed moreso than the others (other than Jasper, who obviously has his hunger issue )

[Weave]

Not at all, but you have to conceed it's not actually normal to want to kill yourself over another person? That has to be one of the rarest reasons on the list - hence Romeo and Juliet being considered a classic love story I'd imagine My only point is, he get away with psychotic behaviour because he's a vampire, when that's not really a good excuse anyway.

 

I love Edward too, though, he's quite likeable when he's not being melodramatic and I like that he's flawed moreso than the others (other than Jasper, who obviously has his hunger issue )

 

I do conceed Nollaig, its not normal but it does happen, I think it goes back to the intensity of Edward's feelings, which are kind of scary because he is willing to kill himself, the instensity he feels block the rational part of the brain that says, 'you know life goes on' and I don't think it is the rarest thing on the list, a lot of people kill themselves for love but it is always in the most extreme circumstances and it is not about love, its about their need to feel something, allbeit briefly, its a immediate reaction which results in regret far too late.

 

Edward is flawed, he is such an old soul but an intense one, he needs to chill out a bit and Jasper, well he is just Jasper, the boy has needs

[Nollaig]

I don't think it is the rarest thing on the list, a lot of people kill themselves for love but it is always in the most extreme circumstances and it is not about love, its about their need to feel something, allbeit briefly, its a immediate reaction which results in regret far too late.

 

Yeah but then it's not what Edward is doing. It's what people do. Edward wouldn't be doing it for any reason outside of Bella - it's nothing to do with himself per se.

 

I wish Jasper got more screen time. He's gooooorgeous.

 

I think I'm like the only person who thinks his wig is awesome

[Weave]

Yeah but then it's not what Edward is doing. It's what people do. Edward wouldn't be doing it for any reason outside of Bella - it's nothing to do with himself per se.

 

I wish Jasper got more screen time. He's gooooorgeous.

 

I think I'm like the only person who thinks his wig is awesome

 

True Nollaig, is just plain old obsession for Edward:D

 

I liked Jasper's wig

[Kell]

Edward? Mature?Edward is a whiny emo! The boy is so self-indulgent and childish it's sickening! Jacob is mature - he deals with his issues in a couple of weeks and moves on to minding Bella!

I'm totally with Nolly on this one - Emo Ed and his winsome whining - LOL! GImme hot-blooded Jake any day of the week!

[Nollaig]

I liked Jasper's wig

 

Good woman!

 

I'm totally with Nolly on this one - Emo Ed and his winsome whining - LOL! GImme hot-blooded Jake any day of the week!

 

GREAT WOMAN! Good for you Kell!

[Weave]

I don't care what anyone says I Edward, I am comfortable with my decision

[Nollaig]

Right you are too Weave, it's more than I can say, I keep switching sides!

[lexiepiper]

Me too, I loved Eddie, then saw New Moon and have to admit at this point in time I prefer Jake

[Nollaig]

Okay what's everyone's favourite soundtrack song? I'm curious!

 

I'm torn between:

"Rosyln" - Bon Iver & St. Vincent

"Slow Life" - Grizzly Bear

"Shooting The Moon" - Okay Go

[Stephanie2008]

I'm really missing out here not seeing the film (who knows when I'll get a chance) but until then I firmly on Team Edward

[Peacefield]

I'm really missing out here not seeing the film (who knows when I'll get a chance) but until then I firmly on Team Edward

 

Alright Stephanie! I'm glad to hear it .

 

Noll, I can't bring myself to pick just one fave, but my top 5 would be:

 

Hearing Damage - Thom Yorke

Shooting the Moon - OK Go

Satellite Heart - Anya Marina

Monsters - Hurricane Bells

The Violet Hour - Sea Wolf

 

Followed very closely by all the rest of the tracks .

[lexiepiper]

I love Lykke Li - Possibility, and Thom Yorke's song too, they're from my fave New Moon scenes

[Weave]

I will get back to you about the soundtrack

[Weave]

I loved the scene with Jacob and Paul fighting as wolves, I thought t was cool how the hit the 'camera' as the rolled into the woods

 

I love the Thom Yorke song ~ 'Hearing Damage', it suited the scene so much with Victoria

[Dimitra]

My favorite songs are:

 

Meet Me On The Equinox

Hearing Damage

Possibility

I Belong To You

Rosyln

The Meadow

[Peacefield]

I loved the scene with Jacob and Paul fighting as wolves, I thought t was cool how the hit the 'camera' as the rolled into the woods

 

I love the Thom Yorke song ~ 'Hearing Damage', it suited the scene so much with Victoria

 

I like that fight scene too, Weave, with the knocking the camera to the ground and all. It was really cool and a nice touch . That whole part after was funny too in Emily's cabin.

 

Hearing Damage is excellent! I thought it suited that scene as well and made me love the song even more.

[Nollaig]

Oh I keep meaning to ask - when Edward arrives at school at the start of the movie.... why isn't he driving his silver Volvo?

[Weave]

Oh I keep meaning to ask - when Edward arrives at school at the start of the movie.... why isn't he driving his silver Volvo?

 

Because volvo stopped making that particular model in silver

[Nollaig]

It's a totally different car though - why didn't they just borrow one? I'm sure there's plenty in the world, or at least they could have used something silver that vaguely resembled it

[Weave]

It's a totally different car though - why didn't they just borrow one? I'm sure there's plenty in the world, or at least they could have used something silver that vaguely resembled it

 

Its the newest model of the original silver volvo and they don't make them in silver, I don't know why they did not get another silver car

[chesilbeach]

Its the newest model of the original silver volvo and they don't make them in silver, I don't know why they did not get another silver car

Or why not just repaint the black one silver?

[Weave]

Or why not just repaint the black one silver?

 

I don't know Chesil, time, money, it wasn't their car