Nollaig Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 I was too devastated to care the first time through. I just wanted it to be over and go string up Joss Whedon for being so cruel. But in retrospect, the concept made sense. I reserve extended judgement of the finale til I watch it again. (I'm on Season 5 episode 2.) Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 Another thing that annoyed me about season 5 is that they always hint that Buffy will show up, but she never does. I think that they should have just left it as it looked a bit cheesy with distance shots of a blonde girl who obviously wasn't Sarah Michelle Gellar. Quote
Nollaig Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 I don't remember that bit, though it rings a very vague bell. To be honest I'm glad, I can't stand her. Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Posted March 8, 2010 The first time is when Angel is hallucinating and he imagines Buffy and Spike together in bed. The second time is when they go to Rome and she is dating the Immortal. They should have just left it. The only Angel/Buffy crossover I like is the episode called I Will Remember You. Quote
Nollaig Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 I used to like that episode, but I watched it the other day (with a friend who is watching through all five seasons) and now I hate it. I just cannot stand that girl. She's annoying, whiny, and obtuse. I'm totally pro-Cordy&Angel. Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 I am too, but she annoyed me towards the end..... I just liked the sentiment in the I will remember you episode. Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Yeah I'm definitely glad that episode was done. A crossover was kinda inevitable and I think it was handled very well. Very emotional episode, even without liking the character. I'm really not enjoying Season 5 as much as the other 4. It's just SO over the top. Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't really like the group dynamic in season 5. Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 This thread just ain't selling it to me, ladies... Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Haha sorry, but better that we be honest. I still maintain that seasons 2 and 3 are epic. 4 is a bit off the rails but the character movements and depth of the big picture is great. Season 5 is dodgy, but that's only 22 episodes out of 110. It's a story worth getting into. Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I'm there - I'm still mourning the loss of the Buffyverse, so will buy the box set anyway. I've just finished watching Firefly (awesome awesome awesome) and have just bought the first season of Dollhouse...I'm becoming something of a Whedon Nerd! Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 I need something to watch now to fill the void left by Buffy/Angel. It is definately worth a watch Mac. As Noll said, the seasons that aren't that great are still good! Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Mac, if you liked the later seasons of Buffy, you'll have no bother with Angel. I can't watch past Season 3 of Buffy, I just go with Angel to L.A. bar crossovers. Angel, imo, is never as bad as the last two seasons-ish of Buffy. If nothing else, the characters in Angel are all loveable. In Buffy, I hated Tara, Dawn, Anya, Riley, Glory, Jonathan/Andrew etc, and I can only handle so much Spike. Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 I liked Anya the second time around. I totally agree about the other characters. Tara was pointless and Dawn annoyed me greatly! Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I hated Glory. I thought she was a poor actress, that Clare Kramer. I also thought Riley was dull, dull, dull. But I thought Anya was ace - this comes from a fella whose girlfriend has Aspergers... Dawn was whiney, as Buffy always was, but Spike got most of the best lines. I missed Giles, mind... Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 Giles is awesome. Plus, he has an amazing singing voice. Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I loved his dark side - man, he could be brutal sometimes (or, at least, there was a suggestion of such...) Quote
Kimmy619 Posted March 9, 2010 Author Posted March 9, 2010 I liked the episode where he reverts to his younger years and ends up crusing around the town with Joyce. Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Giles was a legend. That episode where he kills someone that Buffy can't. I'm going to find the quote, brb. Ben: "Need a ...a minute. She could have killed me." Giles: "No, she couldn't. And sooner or later Glory will re-emerge and make Buffy pay for that mercy... and the world with her. Buffy even knows that, and still she couldn't take a human life. She's a hero, you see. She's not like us." Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 (edited) Sorry, I should have spoilered mine. It's covered now. I covers yours too Mac, just in case someone in this wide world has somehow managed to not see the show I love these dark heroes. I'm not into white knights and pure good. I'm into flawed, morally ambiguous, realist heroes. I always think they're that much stronger for openly walking the line between right and wrong. There's a great quote in Angel about the line between good and evil, and jumping from one side to the other and back: 'Funny thing about black and white. You mix em together, you get grey and it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but grey.' Edited March 9, 2010 by Nollaig Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 That is a good quote. Who wrote that episode? The writer's are excellent. That's what I love about Mal Reynolds in Firefly. He is so cool! Zoe's as hard as nails, too. They're all so pretty! Quote
Nollaig Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 I love Eliza Dushku. I haven't seen Dollhouse, but I love her as Faith in Buffy/Angel and as Tru in Tru Calling. She's SO PRETTY!! And I love her characters too. Quote
Mac Posted March 9, 2010 Posted March 9, 2010 Mmm...Dushku... *sounds of Mac sighing wistfully into his hot chocolate... Quote
arewenearlythere Posted March 12, 2010 Posted March 12, 2010 I'm not sure if I actually like the end of season 5, seems an anti climax somehow, like it wasn't finished. Maybe that was the point though? I'm pretty sure the Angel got cancelled late into season 5...wasn't the conclusion paving the way for a TV movie that never happened? Quote
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