The Library Nook Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a92130/price-causes-outrage-over-book-award.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Talisman mentioned this in the 'celebs jumping the publishing queue' thread and I said there and I'll say it here... *headdesk* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Library Nook Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Ah sorry had missed that, sorry for the duplicate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 You never know, it might develop into a separate 'ghosted books winning prizes' discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kell Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 To my mind, if a book is hostwritten, then it should be the person who wrote it that gets the award (if it wins) - not the minor-league celebrity whose name got put on the cover to garner more sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecream Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Well said Kell. It is a books prize, so the actual author should get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Poppy Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Doesn't it depend on what is ghost written , or how it was ghost written? If Katie came up with the ideas and wrote a story, and someone else came in and tidied it up, then perhaps it's not so bad, but then it should still be listed as a collaboration. Either way, I doubt this book is in the same league as Phillip Pulman or Raymond Briggs. Pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 First, it's a book about ponies. Second, what kind of an idiot would take advice from a professional model who writes books about ponies?I work with these people, trust me, models are not someone who is in any position to give others advice. Third, does anyone even own a pony? Fourth, it's a book about ponies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Poppy Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hey it's good marketing. Lots of little girls do have ponies, and lots of little girls love Katie price. The two together equals money! Simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 If lots of little girls love Katie Price it makes me despair for the future of this country. We're raising tits-obsessed Big Brother contestants. Deep joy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 You clearly didn't meet many of todays youth, prospero... "This guy was like totally checking me out, and I was like no way guy, I'm like totally out of your league and then this other guy and then like if I laugh to hard my head will fell off..." No, I am not exaggerating, this is how they talk, only imagine grammar that has a z after every word, I don't know wth is that about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 You clearly didn't meet many of todays youth... Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Poppy Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Little girls have always liked ponies - well some anyway. Even I had a pony book in the early sixties and wasn't and never have been into horses. As for todays youth, welcome to the real world. My generation have been saying this for a long time. Pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 They're not all bad, but finding somebody who's attractive, popular and intelligent is quite a feat, we are a rare breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Poppy Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 There are some lovely young people on this forum, but equally the news is full of other examples. You have to try and remember its a minority...(I hope!) Pp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nox Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Umm...I'll not dispute you here, it would be a shame to crush your hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talisman Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I did indeed write about this on the other thread. As an author who as worked damned hard to get where she is with even a meagre amount of success, I won't deign to say that I really think though, as if I did I would doubtless end up being banned ! I have written about it my m blogsite though - which some of you may like to look at http://juneaustin.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icecream Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Third, does anyone even own a pony? We own a pony. In fact I think we own two. Apparently we are not sure whether Dally is a horse or a pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freewheeling Andy Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 If lots of little girls love Katie Price it makes me despair for the future of this country. We're raising tits-obsessed Big Brother contestants. Deep joy. Um, maybe not Big Brother contestants but, you know, the other part of that, well, er, about 48% of the population have been raised that way since, well, a very long time ago indeed. *cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I withdraw my slur on such a worthy obsession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sedgewick Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 It is a books prize, so the actual author should get it. No. If it's a book prize, the book gets the prize. (Although the author still gets all the recognition.) If it's an author prize, like the Nobel, the author gets it. But prizes should be about the author and not the book. The focus of this competition is the book and therefore it shouldn't matter who wrote it as it's the book's name that will be tied to the award. Either way, it's not as if it's an important award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yes but your average member of the public doesn't stop to think whether it's the book or the author being awarded a prize. At the end of the day, I think having a ghost writer is completely unfair - at the very least, if she's had some input, then both authors should be mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sedgewick Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Yes but your average member of the public doesn't stop to think whether it's the book or the author being awarded a prize. The average member of the public is an irrelevance to the prize. They don't have a say. At the end of the day, I think having a ghost writer is completely unfair - at the very least, if she's had some input, then both authors should be mentioned.That, then, would defeat the purpose of a ghostwriter. It would be a collaborator. But it's still the book that gets its name engraved on history: not the writer. In this case anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I've never agreed with the concept of ghostwriters anyway. Their very existence makes my nose bleed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 The average member of the public is an irrelevance to the prize. They don't have a say. No, they don't have a say in the award, but they do see 'prize winner' on future editions. That, then, would defeat the purpose of a ghostwriter. Is that such a bad thing? I was trying to say that I don't agree with the concept of ghostwriters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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