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  1. Agreed that if it's just to give a book a "tone" and there's nothing that distinguishes it narratively from "Chapter 1" you might as well call it that rather than "Prologue".

     

    However they sometimes are needed, if just to set a scene in a context that will not make the reader think, "gawd, nothing happens in this book" - no one expects much to happen in prologues so it's a good place for explaining things which it would break the flow of the action/dialogue/etc. once the story's properly underway.

     

    All in all, I would hope (although this thread makes me dread otherwise) that a good editor/publisher would have the sense to distinguish between a mis-named "Chapter 1" and an actual "Prologue" and act accordingly.

     

     

    I agree with this. Although I mostly think prologues are just not needed and if anything, misused in some situations to not have them would indeed break the flow of a very good story. The example that jumps to mind is Frankenstein. I can't think if it's set out as a prologue but if we didn't have the letter's at the start telling us this is a story told to the narrator by Frankensteinn then the ending would just confuse us.

     

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  2. So I keep getting ebooks and plonking them on my ereader but basically, this is the list of books I'm attempting to get read :)

    I started on The Life of Pi last night but so far, not overally impressed. Ho hum.

     

    Drew Karpyshyn - Mass Effect Novels. Geeky but I loved the games.

    All of the Harry Potter novels in sequence.

    Audrey Niffenegger - The Time Traveller's Wife

    Sergei Lukyanenko - The Twilight Watch and The Last Watch

    Yann Martel - The Life of Pi

    Jose Saramago - Blindness

    Jose Saramago - Seeing (if I can get hold of an ebook version)

    Terry Brooks - The Word and the Void set.

    Trudi Canavan - Black Magician Trilogy

    Stephanie Meyer - The Host

    And as recommended to me on here Tad Williams Otherland series.

     

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  3. I wrote my dissertation on women in China 1845-1926 by looking at literature and history. Originally though I wanted to look half at Chinese women and half at Japanese women - just so I could fit geisha in. I read Memoirs of a Geisha in preparation and then never used it. However, I was really glad I did because it's super! I'd encourage anyone to give it a go because despite being written by Golden who's a man writing about a) a completely different culture and :) about a world which is entirely female he's really convincing and as it's something which I've researched it's accurate.

     

    If you enjoy that I'd recommend Liza Dalby's Geisha. It's a true story about a western woman who went to Japan to "become" a geisha.

     

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  4. I have two bookmarks. One's a metal one, which has an angel one it which you twist to sit outside on the spine? I just read someone on here mention something similar but their's sounded much prettier. I also have a Matilda one which is probs my fave and says something like "if a calculator can do it, so can i".

     

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    I'm not saying she didn't care about the baby more but that she still loved Edward just as much. I reckon it was a bit of a catch 22 which Meyer got herself in. On the one hand everyone wants Bella and Edward's love to be stronger than anything. On the other she throws a child into the occasion. If Bella had aborted the baby, everyone would hate Bella. If Edward hadn't shown how much he cares about Bella by wanting to abort the baby everyone would have disliked him. If Bella didn't show an unquantifiable amount of love for the baby despite what it was putting her through then everyone would have said it was unbelievable because a mother's love is stronger than anything.

     

    So really, Meyer played the cards in the best way. I think if she went wrong anywhere it was afterwards when they couldn't wait to get the kid in bed to have some adult fun.

     

     

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  6. Same with me. That book was just... I hated it with a great passion. Not as much as I hated the movie though but still. I hated it. I mean, Twilight is supposed to be about bella and edward's love for one another and then stupid

    Renesmee has to come along. :) She's adorable and bleh but come on! Bella didn't even care much about Edward after she got pregnant.

     

     

    Really? I thought she did. The way I read it was that she didn't care for herself.

    The baby was growing inside her and was basically killing her fragile, human frame. Edward loved her so much that he'd rather lose the child than Bella. However, she wanted the oppurtunity to have a child and for Edward to have a child. I imagine that it's quite a beautiful feeling to create a person with someone, especially when you never really thought you could.

     

    However, don't get me started on the conception because that was really stupid haha!

     

     

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  7. Hia Nat :lol: to the forum, what types of books do you like?

     

     

    Aww hi everyone :) dead lovely.

     

    I like most books to be honest, I'll give anything a go. I mostly read sci-fi and fantasy and if it's got some sort of post-apocalyptic themes I'll probs just melt into it and no one will see me for like days.

     

    However, I like a lot of classics and the sort of undefinable ones too.

     

    Oh and Genevieve, I am officially putting my slippers on haha :lol:

     

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  8. people who knock into you and don't have the manners to apologise, who just because they're 30 years older than me think they're "elderly" and should be given my seat when I've got a mangled leg and it kills me to stand up on the bus, who insist on playing their "music" out loud on the same bus thus giving me a headache, who before you in a huge supermarket queue will not let you through when you're only got one count it one item, bus drivers who don't know where their service stops... I could continue.

     

     

    Haha, I agree with all those things apart from mayble the "it kills me to stand up on a bus part". I have no physical pain so have no problems standing up.

     

    Buses cause me so much annoyance. Damn my inability to pass my driving test haha!

     

    On another note I work in a shop and so I have several "general public" annoyances. The first is when three people come through my check out with one lot of stuff and I ask "would you like a bag?" and they say yes and then watch and tut and mutter whilst I scan everything and then bag everything, when one of them was capable of giving me a hand.

     

    The other is people who come to my checkout on the phone and when I ask questions such as "would you like a bag?" do hand motions to silence me. The same applies to people with mp3 players on.

     

    They are really my biggest gripes ever.

     

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  9. Thanks for the recommendation. I actually have those books on a CD for my e-book reader. My boyfriend got me a load of random ones so I had something to read on it. However, the ones I didn't know have kinda been kicked to the wayside a little. I'll be popping it on shortly in the hope my reading block ends soon!!

     

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  10. Apparently she has a new book out later this year called The Swan Thieves.

     

    Aaah, I'm glad I found this post. I really enjoyed The Historian. However, I struggled to get into it. Reading the first 150 pages or so was a real effort, and then suddenly it seemed to me it picked up the pace and I just couldn't put it down.

     

    I've never had that with a book before. Usually I love it or hate it.

  11. I really love that collection, the contrasts between the two states and the context and everything is so great within it :lol:

     

     

    Indeed. I had to study it for A-Level and then again when I was doing my degree. I've never tired of it. His views on religion and things blow my mind - it's almost like he had beliefs that where years ahead of his time. And the way in which he communicates them through imagery is fantastic.

     

    Aaah... awedome haha

     

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  12. At least if it ever came to a toss up where the Cullens where like "Right book club forum members, we've ditched Bella/Alice/Rosalie and we want you crazy cats" we wouldn't be fighting for the same guy :)

     

    Of course they'd then have to be real and it'd destroy everything written in the books which is sad... :lol:

     

    Edward's like the perfect male I guess, and that's what gives him the grr factor. At least I think he's the perfect male...

     

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    He looks scared all the time though. He's nothing like what I imagine him to look like either. I mean come on, the fourth book where Bella goes to get some fake documents and we find out Jasper's actually considered scary, it's just a bit unbelivable when he's got such an adorable face! And when adorable meets the pure grrr of Edward and Emmett... no competition hehe :lol:

     

    The other two are just like... wow.

     

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  14. Eeesh!!

    I live in a tiny town and went after it had been on for a while, so maybe that's why it wasn't so crazy. Then again it played until sort of mid-March and when I finally got to go a second time, it was still busy, mnostly full of girls and their boyfriends haha. I guess it just shows how popular it was!

     

    I'm pretty excited about the next one.

    Edward and Emmett. Nom Nom!

     

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  15. I still haven't seen the movie on account of me wanting to read the book first. However, on this occasion the writing just didn't capture me. I couldn't get into it. It didn't find it accessible in the same way J.K.Rowling's writing is; written for young 'uns but adults can take something from it too.

     

    Maybe I'll just give in and watch the movie.

     

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  16. I went to the cinema and saw the movie, my best friend roped me into it. I was pretty concerned the cinema would be full of teens and we'd look like twenty-something weirdos in the corner. However, the cinema was half full and mostly of ladies of the same age as us.

     

    I came out wanting to know more so got the books and read all of them in a week. I really didn't want it to end.

     

    Still don't much to my boyfriend's annoyance. He did buy me the DVD though bless 'im and he did go to the cinema with me so I could see it a second time :)

     

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  17. Hi,

     

    At the moment I'm really struggling to get into any books. I have a list of books I want to read but none that really whisk me away so I'm kinda first chapter in on a lot of things.

     

    I'd quite like to read something in a similar vane to Patrick Rothfuss's The Name of the Wind; like it's gonna be epic but it's not all words I can't even begin to pronounce.

     

    Really trying to read Terry Brooks Word and the Void trilogy but alas, the prologue put me off...

     

    Thanks xx

  18. I pretty much read everything in a book be it prologue, epilogue or very long and boring introduction.

     

    However, this doesn't mean I like them. These devices strike me as tools used by authors who want to escape the way in which they tell the main bulk of their narrative. The best example I can give is Bob. Bob is a writer and Bob wants to write a crime story in third person about a investigator type catching a psychopath. He uses a prologue to introduce these happenings and in that prologue he deviates entirely from the rest of the narratives structure by writing in first person and yes, you guessed it, as the psychopath.

     

    I just feel a bit blah when I see that. I have much more respect and willingness to read a book where the author builds all that suspense up him or herself. It just makes me feel like the mood is being forced upon me somewhat. Each genre might do it a little differently, but the result is the same.

     

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