green Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Do you class historical crime as a separate genre to crime? Examples are C.J.Sansom's Shardlake series set during the reign of Henry VIII,Rory Clements' Elizabethan series,and more recently D.E.Meredith's Victorian crime novels,Devoured and The Devil's Ribbon. I do tend to split historical crime from modern crime/thrillers though they're often equal or superior to the modern crime novels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Andrea~ Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I suppose crime has it's own sub-genres. There's cosy murders like Agatha Christie, and then the more grittier novels. I would say historical crime is probably a sub-genre, or a crossover genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimes Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I would view it a bit like fiction, within the broad genre of fiction there is fiction, historical fiction, science fiction, etc. BTW another good historical crime series is the Falco series by Lindsey Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Begins Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) Do you class historical crime as a separate genre to crime? Examples are C.J.Sansom's Shardlake series set during the reign of Henry VIII,Rory Clements' Elizabethan series,and more recently D.E.Meredith's Victorian crime novels,Devoured and The Devil's Ribbon. I do tend to split historical crime from modern crime/thrillers though they're often equal or superior to the modern crime novels. These sound good! Checking out samples on Kindle now... thanks a lot lol This site gets me into so much trouble! Edited: Only finding CJ Sansom on Kindle Edited February 1, 2014 by Anna Begins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 Thanks for the tip-off Vimes. I agree,Andrea,that historical crime is probably a sub-genre,though it's soared in popularity in the last 10 years I would say. There's also a fast growing 'historical action' genre now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Like Andrea, I'd say sub genre rather than a separate genre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 These sound good! Checking out samples on Kindle now... thanks a lot lol This site gets me into so much trouble! Edited: Only finding CJ Sansom on Kindle I've checked and both Rory Clements and D.E.Meredith are available on Kindle,in the U.K,any way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Begins Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I've checked and both Rory Clements and D.E.Meredith are available on Kindle,in the U.K,any way! That's terrible! A book should be available to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 That's terrible! A book should be available to all! Did you check on Amazon in the U.S,Anna Begins? Both Clements & Meredith are there on Kindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Begins Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Did you check on Amazon in the U.S,Anna Begins? Both Clements & Meredith are there on Kindle. Found them finally! Thanks, they sound good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Staincliffe Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Andrew Taylor is a UK writer who's produced some excellent historical crime fiction, The Scent of Death is set in New York during the American War of Independence and won a Dagger here from the Crime Writers Association. I'd also recommend Laura Wilson's Stratton series set in the 40s and 50s and Sarah Waters' Victorian novels. And the late Ariana Franklin whose books are set in the twelfth century and feature a great female protagonist are really excellent and unusual reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsa Orlong Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 As Andrea said, I'd class it as a sub-genre. I'll add Steven Saylor to the list - his novels about Gordianus the Finder, set in Ancient Rome, are very, very good. I'm also a fan of Rory Clements and C J Sansom, and I'm interested in - but have yet to read - Susanna Gregory and James Forrester. Must give them a try soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsa Orlong Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Andrew Taylor is a UK writer who's produced some excellent historical crime fiction, The Scent of Death is set in New York during the American War of Independence and won a Dagger here from the Crime Writers Association. Just had a look at this one - sounds right up my street. Thanks for the recommendation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Begins Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) All this sounds great- I love historical fiction and crime/ thrillers. Raiders of the Nile by Saylor looks great- comes out Feb. 25th. Edited February 2, 2014 by Anna Begins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Andrew Taylor is a UK writer who's produced some excellent historical crime fiction, The Scent of Death is set in New York during the American War of Independence and won a Dagger here from the Crime Writers Association. I'd also recommend Laura Wilson's Stratton series set in the 40s and 50s and Sarah Waters' Victorian novels. And the late Ariana Franklin whose books are set in the twelfth century and feature a great female protagonist are really excellent and unusual reads. Thanks for the recommendations,Cath,I'll look them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveDunne Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 There are many sub genres within the crime "envelope" and historical crime is just one. In fact, because crime is the single most popular genre, more and more writers/publishers are classifying their novels as crime when they wouldn't have been considered as such ten years ago. There's a growing body of "crime" that deals with relationships breaking up (The Silent Wife, Gone Girl) and a huge body of work that once would have come under the heading "family drama" which is now included under the "Psychological Drama" label. I don't read enough historical crime fiction but have just discovered Imogen Robertson's wonderful series. The Paris Winter, set in 1900s Paris is a revelation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsa Orlong Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 All this sounds great- I love historical fiction and crime/ thrillers. Raiders of the Nile by Saylor looks great- comes out Feb. 25th. Yeah, it does look good! I haven't read either of the prequels with young Gordianus, yet - shall get there . . . eventually! I started with Roman Blood - well worth a look, and cheap on Kindle in the US at the moment, if you're interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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