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    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    When I was browsing for Honore de Balzac's novels, I found Letters Of Two Brides, which I think is in your C19 time-frame (not sure though). Short synopsis:This richly drawn epistolary tale recounts the correspondence between two young women whose friendship evolves as they embark on marriage and motherhood. Although both have a distinctly different outlook, their shared observations and memories bring the beauty and difficulty of these experiences vividly to life. I've got it on my wishlist now  :smile: .

     

    It's on mine too, Marie :)

     

    Frankie did suggest it earlier in the thread, but thank you for passing it on too.

     

    I'd love to know what you think of it if you get to read it before me.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    deb I absolutely love the nineteenth century, it was an incredible time for literature (even if they did go off the epistolary novel a bit :giggle2: ). If you like collections of real letters I would recommend the letters of Lewis Carroll (or his diaries actually), he met so many interesting people during his life and has such an interesting personality, they're really addictive!

     

    I have read some of his letters to children, and those are fab. So, thanks, Hayley, I will look into his diaries and such too.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Your description of the 1880s, vodkafan, completely alters my views of those times! I simply had no idea it was anything like that. In particular, Frenchmen hiding in London to avoid military service. How fascinating. Is that touched upon in any novels of the time?

     

    And just as I was thinking, how clever to rewrite Dangerous Liaisons as tweets, novels were already dealing with stories told through telegrams! Thanks for those links. I'm going to take a look now.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    I haven't read it, no, it came up when I was doing a google/wiki search for suitable novels for you :)

     

     

    :) Well, that's kind of you, frankie. Thank you.

     

    The ability to edit here has appeared and if it wasn't for your explanation of the 10-message intro, I would have ended up sitting here wondering how I missed the "edit" button before :)

     

    I saw that wiki page you mention: astonishing, that huge gap in the C19th, isn't it.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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     The fascinating thing is, the more I read the more I realise that all the problems we have that we think are so modern were exactly the same then. They had terrorist bomb attacks, people living on credit, people trafficking, mail order catalogues and corrupt police and politicians and serial killers...

     

    This is astonishing! I was unaware they had bombs back then, let alone terrorist attacks. And mail order catalogues? How fascinating.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Can I ask what has got you chasing these type of novels deb? Is it something you found you liked and just wanted more of? Why 19th century in particular?

     

     

    The short answer why: yes, just that really - I like them and want more.
     
    The long answer:
     
    About 25 years ago I discovered C18th literature, read Clarissa, and was hooked both on the C18th as a time and epistolary novels as a form. (I also like collections of real letters.)
     
    Apart from simply liking them, it is a way to vicariously indulge my fantasy of having pen friends. The truth - the sad truth - is that I am the world's worst letter writer ever and wouldn't be able to carry on a correspondence.
     
    As to why 19th century, well this year I have decided to read mostly titles from the Penguin Classics and Oxford World's Classics ranges. Apart from the Brontë sisters, Great Expectations, Jane Austen and a handful of other novels from that century, I am in the dark. It's always seemed a less than inviting period of smoke-shrouded cities and towns full of wage-slaves eking out their lives for rich industrialists. Ohh, wait a minute, and I getting mixed up with the 21st century here? :D
     
    Anyway, I've decided to see what novels from the time are really like, and was curious to know if there were epistolary novels written then.
     
    That was a bit convoluted, wasn't it? I ought to have stuck with the short answer.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Ooh, and maybe Anne Bronte's The Tenant of Wildfell Hall?

     

    Good suggestion, but I think it's another of those where the major part is told in one huge chunk. Ideally, I want a novel told in lots of letters, rather like the examples I've given (but which are all eighteenth century), or like the Letters of Two Brides which frankie recommended.

     

    Frances Burney's books are well worth reading, aren't they? I do like those. Eighteenth century books I do know about, but am almost wholly ignorant of nineteenth century novels.

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Dangerous Liaisons by Choderlos de Laclos fits the bill but it was published a bit before the 19th century... :unsure:

     

    Yes, another wonderful book from the eighteenth century. But thank you for reminding me of it - that's one I will have to revisit.

     

    Letters of Two Brides looks to be absolutely perfect! (And my library appears to have two different versions of it.)

    Have you read it?

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Lady Susan! I don't know why I've never gotten around to reading that. Yes, lovely suggestion. The Moonstone is already on my list, but because it's a 'sensation' novel (didn't know it was in the form of letters, diaries, and such).

     

    Thanks, Hayley.

     

    Yes, Frankenstein begins (and perhaps ends - can't recall) as letters from a brother to his sister. But the major section of it isn't quite the form I'm looking for at the moment.

     

    Ideally I want novels written entirely in the form of letters, and preferably of a non-fantastical nature. 

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    The one that springs immediately to mind is Bram Stoker's Dracula where letters, diary entries, newspaper articles etc. are used to tell the story.

     

    Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you, Chrissy.

     

    Have you read it? Is the original novel as far from the movie versions as Frankenstein tends to be?

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    I would be interested in that myself. I don't know although I suspect faster communication in real life like the telegraph had made that form unpopular.

     

     

    Hmm, I hadn't considered that. Isn't it interesting though that there are quite a few modern Epistolary Novels despite we have almost instantaneous communication now. A hankering for simpler days, perhaps?

    Nineteenth Century Epistolary Novels

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    Are there any Nineteenth Century novels written in the form of letters by multiple characters? Something like those by Samuel Richardson or Tobias Smollett, but 19th C ?

     

    Ideally I'd like titles which are readily available in paperback.

     

    Are there such novels, or had that form gone out of fashion by then?

    Classics in translation

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    Thank you all for your thoughts on this. Those were helpful.

     

    @ Hayley

    I thought more about it and realised how much I enjoyed Madame Bavary. Similarly with Thérèse Raquin last year. So I think you are right: they are worth reading, and I will go with that.

     

    @ Athena

    That's an important point about reading from different times and cultures. I feel I am too limited in what I have (and can) read and need to experience more diverse books. That's definitely a reason for me to carry on with reading in translation. Thank you.

     

    @ Brian

    You've hit on one of the things which perplex me. How does someone completely ignorant of, say, French, decide which translation is best?

     

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    Thanks again everyone. You have helped me decide.

    Classics in translation

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    I read Madame Bovary over Christmas. It was the Penguin translation by Geoffrey Wall, and I enjoyed it very much. But it has left me wondering in what sense can I be said to have read Madame Bovary? I am going around in circles trying to answer that, and would appreciate other people's perspective.

     

    Not a single word I read was actually by Flaubert: really, haven't I read a novel by Geoffrey Wall? I can see that the theme, setting, characters, etc. are all Flaubert's. And I assume the translator has tried to make it as close to all that as possible, and so I can be said to have read a novel that captures the spirit or essence of the original. But yet ...

     

    Sigh.

     

    I am tempted to read some works by Zola, Balzac, Sand, etc. But is there a point if I can only read them in translation?

     

    I'm not saying there isn't! I am genuinely perplexed about the whole thing and wondering how to approach this. Am I over thinking this? 
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