Dr Who Series 4

[Michelle]

I'm surprised there's no comments yet! My basic feeling was that it was aimed just a little too 'young'.. it reminded me more of a Sarah Jane episode. But, on the whole, good fun.. the adipose were cute and funny, DT was just as adoreable, CT was not too bad, and we LOVED the glimpse of Rose at the end! (I'm still a little annoyed they're bringing her back, but my daughter's love for her is catching, and if they handle it well it may be ok.)

I would imagine views will be divided, but I thought that for an opening, it was pretty good. I'm looking forward to the next 12 weeks. :)

[prospero]

As I mentioned in my blog, I nearly lost control of my bladder when it started. I'm stupidly, childishly, hyperactively excited about this. I loved every minute.

Even though Rose's teeth annoy me, and CT is just irritating beyond words.

I honestly don't care though. The Tennant makes up for that in spades. Watching Doctor Who is the most fun I've had on my own since...well, uh...so. Good show tonight, huh?

[Gyre]

The first episode was a lot better than I thought it was going to be, I was not that enthused about Catherine Tate being the new Doctor's assistant but hey give the girl a break eh?, she was okay but it is early days fans!

I thought the adipose were the cutest wee things ever! The part with the Doctor and Donna mouthing to each other was really funny:lol: And the 'amazing' appearance of Rose, I thought she as gone, get gone girl!

[prospero]

It may have been her first episode but remember we've seen her in the Christmas special '06...and hardcore fans have been following internet news and trailers for months now. So we've had time to make up our minds. ;)

(The proper addicted have also been to conventions and exhibitions).

[~V~]

It may have been her first episode but remember we've seen her in the Christmas special '06...and hardcore fans have been following internet news and trailers for months now. So we've had time to make up our minds. ;)

(The proper addicted have also been to conventions and exhibitions).

I'm not sure being a hardcore fan of David Tennant gives you the same amount of kudos though :lol:

[prospero]

I'm not sure being a hardcore fan of David Tennant gives you the same amount of kudos though :lol:

I've been rumbled! :blush:

[O's]

The creature feature was a tad pants, but the actual story and interaction was solid. A good start methinks.

[Nici76]

I thoughly enjoyed last nights episode! Roll on next Saturday....

And I thought Catherine Tate was great! :blush:

[Mia]

It was okay, I suppose, but I wasn't too impressed. I agree with Michelle that it was too childish, like a Sarah Jane adventure.

Things I liked:

Being able to look at David Tennant. :D
The bit with them mouthing to each other was good, and hilarious when they looked round and realised everyone in the room was watching them!
The fact that they found each other - I wasn't keen on CT the first time I saw the Xmas ep (too shouty), but when I watched it again she grew on me. I felt sorry for her regretting her decision to stay on Earth and then changing her mind and desperately trying to find The Doctor (although the fact that she turned him down in the first place may go to prove that she's not right in the head).

Things I didn't like:

The whole story was a bit daft, and so was the Doctor. Surely the name "Adipose Industries" would have alerted him sooner to a connection to the Adiposians?
Sarah Lancashire hamming it up.
The utterly ridiculous Wile E Coyote moment when the teleport beam switched off and Sarah L took the time to look around and down before gravity suddenly kicked in, just like in a roadrunner cartoon. :roll:
The Adipose themselves - too cute to be menacing, but people were dying, ie poor Stacey. But I guess it doesn't matter that she died, she was only a comedy fat person.

So, it was nice that Dr Who is back, but I hope next week's ep is better than this one.

[Janet]

The utterly ridiculous Wile E Coyote moment when the teleport beam switched off and Sarah L took the time to look around and down before gravity suddenly kicked in, just like in a roadrunner cartoon. :roll:
We thought that was a bit lame too!

I also loved the miming bit. Some of the members on the Neighbours forum said they were having difficulty following the conversation - I guess that's when being slightly hard of hearing comes into its own as I had no such problems!).

It was great to see Bernard Cribbins - I love him as an actor.

He appeared in a 'non cannon' Doctor Who film years ago!

Sad that the actor who played Donna's dad died. :(

All in all, about a 7/10 for this episode, but I have high expectations.

[Fay]

I am thrilled to have doctor who back on tv, i was that engrossed in Saturdays episode, that I hadnt noticed Libby had thrown up most of her feed all over herself, me and the sofa...sorry, was that too much info!!! :lol:

[Michelle]

:lol: that is the sign of a good show!

[chicken]

loved it, loved it, loved it and no I dont fancy David Tennant :mrgreen: although I would like to make him a pie and watch him eat it (he is tooooooo skinny) :tong:

[Tiger]

Last year I wasn't as into it as series 1 and 2, but this series looks like a good one. I love Catherine Tate- so funny! And my brother liked those Adipose, or whatever they're called, the aliens that were made of living fat after taking the tablets. I can't wait until Saturday- that one looks good when they're in Pompeii!

[miss_m_c_r]

I loved the last episode, very funny.


Looking forward to tonights episode, Hoping that the adipose were just a funny entry to the new series

[Mia]

Well, that was a vast improvement on last week's opener! A much more multi-layered story, with serious moral issues to decide, ie should the Doctor save the people of Pompei, knowing what's going to happen? Again, Donna was his "conscience", as was pointed out, he "needs someone sometimes".

I have to say that the "look" of the episode was amazing - either a lot of money was spent on it, or it just looked that way! I loved the way everything was in red tones and hot looking - you could feel the heat just watching it. Very good indeed.

I liked:

The sulky teenage boy - teenagers were the same even in those days!
As mentioned previously, the look of the thing - the Sybiline priestesses, the sets, the flame monster thing (looking kind of like Treebeard aflame).
The running joke that every time they actually spoke Latin, it came out as Welsh!

I didn't like:

The fact that I couldn't tell what Donna was saying sometimes - she needs to speak more clearly.
The miraculous escape from the mountain. Doctor: "If we pull the lever we're not going to survive this." Me: "Oh yes you are, it's only episode two." :roll:

But all in all, a very good, enjoyable episode, even though it was rather sad.

[Michelle]

Mia, I couldn't agree more! I'm afraid Donna is annoying me a bit, and I'm not yet sure if I'll get used to her or not. The storyline was really good.. even though I had to explain it to Beth afterwards!

I think this could be the reason that Dr Who is popular with so many people - having the different writers means that there is something to please everyone.

[Fay]

I missed last nights episode, I was picking Lauren up from her friends birthday party, so does anyone know where and when i can catch a repeat at all?

[prospero]

Keep an eye on the TV listings for BBC3 and 4. Ah, Just checked. Tonight, BBc3, 8pm, followed by Doctor Who Confidential.

[Fay]

Many thanks Prospero. :D

[prospero]

I might watch it again for a double dose of The Tennant. :D

[Mia]

He is rather attractive, even though for 95% of the time he is pulling stupid faces!

Prospero, did you ever see him in Casanova? A great series (but sad at the end).

[prospero]

I didn't, as I wasn't into him then and the story didn't appeal to me. I became a convert when he became the Doctor, though, as I'd always loved the show so it was inevitable I'd fall for whatever actor played him.

[Mia]

"Casanova" was when I first became aware of David Tennant and thought "actually, he's rather gorgeous!" It's certainly worth watching. :)

[Laramie]

1) You can watch the latest episode any time you want for up to a week after it has been on by going to www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho)

2) David Tennant has a really weird "oh, ****, we're all gonna die" face. He should get a new one

3) people should stop telling the Dr he looks older or DT will get a complex

4) one of my friends said Fires of Pompeii was boring, another said it was confusing.

5) I am refusing to get excited about the return of Rose until she has been AND gone again, because there are so many ways that it could be done badly.

6) I always think the first episode of the series are less serious than the others. I loved the jokes and funny scenarios eg the window talking

7) CT's voice is annoying, but she did well. I like their relationship and the Spartacus thing. I liked the thing in the first episode with the "You just want TO MATE?????"

8) I have run out of things to say. Dammit. I wanted to get to 10

[Louiseog]

"Casanova" was when I first became aware of David Tennant and thought "actually, he's rather gorgeous!" It's certainly worth watching. :)
I first met him in 'Blackpool' which was excellent!

I am sad enough to have done Latin in school and the course we followed was the story of a family in Pompeii, their names: Caecilius, Metella and Quintus!

[prospero]

That's where Russell Davies said he lifted the names from; the old school textbooks.

[Laramie]

I saw John Barrowman in concert last Wednesday :P

[~V~]

I didn't, as I wasn't into him then and the story didn't appeal to me. I became a convert when he became the Doctor, though, as I'd always loved the show so it was inevitable I'd fall for whatever actor played him.

Glory hunter :tong:

I first met him in 'Blackpool' which was excellent!


That's more like it - a proper Tennant fan. ;)

He was lovely in that but hysterical in Casanova.

[prospero]

Glory hunter :tong:...

Doctor fan actually!:tong:

[OnyxAngel]

Series 4 hasn't been bad so far and tomorrow's episode looks quite cool (ok I didn't mean to make that into a joke but it could work when you see pics/clips of the Ood-sphere lol)

The best episode so far in my opinion so far was the 1st but that was plainly and simply because we saw Rose! :D:lol:

I really can't wait till the finale of this series it'll be amazing!!

[Laramie]

Ooooh, I loved the Ood-Sphere. For about the last 5 minutes me and my 3 friends were going "aww....awww...awww....aww..."

heehee

Every song must end.

[George Stark]

It was a good episode, really enjoued it :mrgreen:

[Nici76]

Last nights episode really scared Robbie, he jumped a few times and was hiding behind the cushion!

[OnyxAngel]

It was a brilliant episode and I thought the Ood were so sweet and adorable

I wonder if The Doctor will regenerate (NO!!!) soon seen as it was "Every song must end" if so I hope Harry Lloyd is the next Doctor like the rumours
Just a guess.

[Mia]

That "every song must end" comment was a bit worrying. :eek:

That was a good, enjoyable episode with lots of emotion, humour and "doing the right thing".

Liked:

The Doctor looking even more gorgeous than usual! :smile2:
The bit with Donna in her hood not hearing a thing.
Donna going into "Lauren the teenager" mode briefly: "Miss?! Are you saying I look single?!!" :lol:
Tim McInnerny getting his just desserts (he's put on quite a bit of weight since Blackadder, hasn't he?)
The whole slavery storyline.
Some scary bits, like when Donna was locked in the container with the red-eyed Ood, or when they were both seconds away from being killed ("DoctorDonna! Friends!").

Didn't like:

Er... nothing, really! Apart from the worrying comment that every song must end.

A solid, entertaining episode. :D

[AndyGrayUK]

Yesterday episode really crept me out, hopefully now the ood's can lead a happy life ;)

[Laramie]

I think the every song must end comment was about Rose coming back...cuz David Tennant's here for at least the specials next year. And they were talking about sad songs...so, yeah..that's what I thought.

And I knew he was gonna turn into an ood :DP

[OnyxAngel]

I think the every song must end comment was about Rose coming back...cuz David Tennant's here for at least the specials next year. And they were talking about sad songs...so, yeah..that's what I thought.

And I knew he was gonna turn into an ood :DP


Yeah maybe.

Me too :D

[Isidro]

Woohoo! Martha's back!

[Mia]

Yay! I like Martha - she should never have left so soon.

Mixed feelings about this story. It seemed a little slow and stretched out to fill two episodes.

Liked:

Lots of humour, with the saluting and Donna demanding her salute!
Martha being back and warning Donna what life with the Doctor could be like.
Evil sat-navs - cool! (But aren't they already directing people into rivers?!). The woman's death near the beginning was done well and was rather nasty.
The Doctor trading grammar with Rattigan.
The evil Martha replicant! Next week should be good. :)

Didn't like:

That evil Rattigan brat - he was like Artemis Fowl without the charm and conscience.
The Doctor fannying about whilst Donna's grandad slowly got gassed in his car. :mad: Hello? Couldn't you have broken a window or something?
The whole episode could have done with a bit more pace.

[Isidro]

and why are the sontarans so short? I'm sure they weren't that short before?

[Louiseog]

and why are the sontarans so short? I'm sure they weren't that short before?
You've just got taller!

[Isidro]

:lol:

Now I've met Tom Baker and he's TALL, I don't remember him towering over sontarans and making shorty jokes.

[Laramie]

YOU'VE MET TOM BAKER??? COOL!

ahem

I've met Colin Baker and John Barrowman.

I wasn't that keen on last night...It was good, but not one of my favourites, which it should have been with UNIT (THEY CHANGED WHAT UNIT STANDS FOR!! HOW DARE THEY!!), the Sontarans and Martha. It had some good ideas, but I don't think it should have lasted for the whole 2 episodes so they had to spread it out a bit. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, it just didn't stun me. Ooooh, that clone-thing was cool.

Oh, also, why were the UNIT soldiers so damn scared? They're supposed to be used to dealing with aliens, and there they were terrified of a dark room! :motz:

Oh, and the suits are the wrong colour, and they have....ahem....an unaturally large....chest area....

It's weird.

[Michelle]

If you mean the Sontarans suits, all the aliens that have been 'resurrected' have been changed!

[Laramie]

I do. And I know, but the others were changed for the better. The Sontarans lok a bit silly.

[OnyxAngel]

Yeah they do.
They're killer potatoes! and very short ones at that :lol:

[Isidro]

It was the height and the "short" jokes that made me frown tbh. The sontarans were always stocky, they come from a high grav world, but I don't remember them being so short they were made a joke of.

[Mia]

I quite enjoyed tonight's episode, and thought it was better than the first part of the story. Random thoughts:

Good to see Donna's mum showed some sense by getting an axe and smashing the car windscreen to rescue her dad, which is more than the Doctor managed. :roll:
"Brattigan" showed some decency in the end and sacrificed himself (though I wasn't worried that the Dr would actually die at this point in the series!)
But most importantly: near the beginning, on the TV transmission, was that really Rose saying "Doctor" that popped up onscreen for a few seconds, or did I imagine it?

[OnyxAngel]

I quite enjoyed tonight's episode, and thought it was better than the first part of the story. Random thoughts:

Good to see Donna's mum showed some sense by getting an axe and smashing the car windscreen to rescue her dad, which is more than the Doctor managed. :roll:
"Brattigan" showed some decency in the end and sacrificed himself (though I wasn't worried that the Dr would actually die at this point in the series!)
But most importantly: near the beginning, on the TV transmission, was that really Rose saying "Doctor" that popped up onscreen for a few seconds, or did I imagine it?

I really liked tonight's episode too Mia.

Bit obvious about smashing the windscreen wasn't it :lol:
:lol: Brattigan indeed. At least he sacrificed himself in the end like you said.
Nope you weren't imagining it. It really was Rose:D

[O's]

I liked the "are you my mummy" bit.

[Janet]

I liked the "are you my mummy" bit.
I loved that too! :lol:

I was really shocked at seeing the Doctor's Daughter! (Who really is the Doctor's daughter - Peter Davisons! :D ).

[OnyxAngel]

Yep she is

I'm already confused about the next episode lol

[Isidro]

It was the height and the "short" jokes that made me frown tbh. The sontarans were always stocky, they come from a high grav world, but I don't remember them being so short they were made a joke of.

Watched Dr Who confidential - they were taller.... :motz:

[Michelle]

Does it really matter? ;)

[Louiseog]

Does it really matter? ;)
:lol:

[O's]

Its a side effect of mass cloning?

[Isidro]

Does it really matter? ;)

To me, yes, I'm a pedant. Redesigns are fine, mostly an improvement. But this was silly.

Looking forward to next weeks though.

[Mia]

Well, I don't really know what to say about this one. I think I was expecting slightly more from it, so was a bit disappointed.

I thought thatthe Doctor's daughter would be someone who'd been around for the last 19-ish years, living her life, not someone who was instantly created from a tissue sample. It was all a bit weird. I was pretty certain she was going to get shot by that General, and also had an inkling that she might not be dead. That leaves it all open for them to meet again.

I do love seeing people somersault unscathed through laser barriers - completely improbable but impressive all the same! :)

I think the whole concept of the war that had been fought "for generations" was quite clever, and I liked the ending when the Doctor released the terraforming thingy.

Poor Martha had a tough time, and I felt sorry for the Hath who rescued her and then died himself.

All in all, I thought it was a strange episode.

[burghead lass]

I loved tonights episode it was so different from the usual and I can't say any more cos people still have to watch the prog.

[Mia]

You could use spoiler tags! :)

[burghead lass]

yes I could Mia but decided not to be cause I know I can't resist looking at them so I don't do it in case there are people like me who can't helpm looking because we love a good nose :lol:

[OnyxAngel]

:lol: my mum says exactly the same thing

I liked tonight's episode although it was a bit confusing

[Sarahrob]

I am sad enough to have done Latin in school and the course we followed was the story of a family in Pompeii, their names: Caecilius, Metella and Quintus!

I studied those books too. For the final exam they gave us the bit of translation about the volcano erupting and poor Cerberus sitting at his master's feet, whining.

Needless to say, there were many sniffles from a very upset class of twelve year old girls during that exam. I think I'm still traumatised!:lurker:

[Michelle]

Mia, we always seem to have opposite views about these shows, because I really liked that one! ;)

I do know what you mean though.. there have been rumours about him having a daughter, and you would have expected it to have been someone who had been growing up over the past few years.. with a history etc. However, it was interesting to find out that he has had a daughter previously, and it sounds like she was killed - that man is carrying some serious baggage around!

With regards spoilers etc, I think that once a show is aired, there is no need for spoilers. I, for example, didn't get to see this episode until this morning, so I simply avoided the thread. It seems silly if people won't discuss a show, just in case someone hasn't yet seen it. :) (I'll add a sticky to this forum, explaining.)

[Isidro]

Way back before I was born, in 1963, William Hartnell's Doctor had a granddaughter - Susan, so it makes sense that he had a child, how else do you get to be a grandparent?

I wasn't expecting the cloning/whatever thing though, and I'd love to see her come back at some point.

But but but (pedant alert) Why did she not regenerate fully?

[Laramie]

Because she wasn't a proper Time Lord. That thing in her mouth was Time Lord energy, like when the 9/10 regeneration went wrong.

We think Jenny's gonna marry Jack XD

And my dad thinks they should do a spin-off with her in XD

I think she will be back in the finale

I was disappointed it wasn't his real, natural, biological daughter. Could've been amazing.

I so wanted, when TD had his arm in that thing going "ow...ow!" for them to make Martha and Donna do it and they just look at him and go "it doesn't hurt! you wimp!" and then he goes "I was being dramatic."

Series four is my least fave so far. Almost all have disappointed in some way, though they were still good.

go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/ then click on the Monster Files in the video thing on the right. then go to about 1 min 15 seconds in :D

[Mia]

Mia, we always seem to have opposite views about these shows, because I really liked that one! ;)

I've noticed that! :mrgreen:

I do know what you mean though.. there have been rumours about him having a daughter, and you would have expected it to have been someone who had been growing up over the past few years.. with a history etc.

Yes, I think that was what disappointed me. It was like "stick your hand in here - oh look, you've got a daughter"! And... didn't the soldiers say everyone had to be processed, but then only process the Doctor? I didn't notice Martha or Donna sticking their hands in the machine.

However, it was interesting to find out that he has had a daughter previously, and it sounds like she was killed - that man is carrying some serious baggage around!

Oops, I completely forgot about even hearing that! Old age must be creeping up on me. That does sound interesting.

With regards spoilers etc, I think that once a show is aired, there is no need for spoilers.

Excellent! :D

[OnyxAngel]

.

We think Jenny's gonna marry Jack XD

And my dad thinks they should do a spin-off with her in XD

I think she will be back in the finale

I so wanted, when TD had his arm in that thing going "ow...ow!" for them to make Martha and Donna do it and they just look at him and go "it doesn't hurt! you wimp!" and then he goes "I was being dramatic."

go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/ then click on the Monster Files in the video thing on the right. then go to about 1 min 15 seconds in :D

Why do you think Jenny's goiing to marry Jack? :lol:

A spin off with her would be cool.

I also think she will be back in the finale.

:lol: That would have been great

Yeah it's great that clip isn't it

My brother thinks it was Jenny who picked up The Master's ring at the end of series 3

[Isidro]

My brother thinks it was Jenny who picked up The Master's ring at the end of series 3

Ooooh, I like your thinking!

[Mia]

Internet rumour re Jenny (I'll put in spoilers in case you don't want to look!): Apparently she will be appearing in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Don't know how true it is!

Also: a blooper according to my paper: when Jenny says she smells flowers and the Doctor sniffs and says "Yes, bougainvillea" - apparently bougainvillea doesn't have a scent! :lol: I can't verify this though, as I'm no expert on plants!

[Janet]

Also: a blooper according to my paper: when Jenny says she smells flowers and the Doctor sniffs and says "Yes, bougainvillea" - apparently bougainvillea doesn't have a scent! :lol: I can't verify this though, as I'm no expert on plants!
LOL - my parents have several Bougainvillea in their conservatory. I can't say I've ever noticed them smelling - I'll give them a sniff when I go over next Friday. :lol:

[Isidro]

Internet rumour re Jenny (I'll put in spoilers in case you don't want to look!): Apparently she will be appearing in the Sarah Jane Adventures. Don't know how true it is!

That'd be fun and I'd like to see that series back too.

[Janet]

:lol: What a random episode!

We loved playing "spot the Agatha Christine novel title"!

[Mia]

I don't really know what to say about that. I think it defies description! Agatha Christie and a giant wasp?! Hmm... I can't decide whether it worked or not. Downright bizarre. :confused:

[Michelle]

Most people on the digitalspy forums thought it was fantastic. I can't say I was that keen, and some of it was rather silly.

The next one looks like it could be good. :)

[Mia]

Ooh yes, an episode set in a library - it was made for us! :mrgreen:

Yes, I think "silly" is a good word for tonight's episode.

[Louiseog]

Ooh yes, an episode set in a library - it was made for us! :mrgreen:

Yes, I think "silly" is a good word for tonight's episode.
But quite fun too!

[Laramie]

Why do you think Jenny's goiing to marry Jack? :lol:
Well, it's Anna and Chloe mainly. But they think that they're very similar :mrgreen:


Well, I LOVED last night! The best this season IMO! And one of my faves overall. With most of the others, excluding Planet of the Ood, I've been disappointed in some way, but this one was great. Just as good as it used to be ^.^
I liked Partners in Crime, too, but it just wasn't special. I always like the first episode in the season the least...well, I liked New Earth, and I'm not saying that this Partners in Crime. Better than the Sontaran episodes and The Doctor's Daughter. It just didn't have that extra sparkle.

[angelofboox]

Aren't most Dr Who episodes bordering on silly anyway? =P

Anyhow, I thought the episode was alright - I liked the Whodunnit? style!

[Mia]

It was like a Poirot episode for juveniles with added silliness, but mildly entertaining. I did like Donna trying to secure the copyright for some of Christie's as yet unwritten books! Also her reaction to being called "the plucky young girl who helps me out"! :lol:

[Tinymoz]

I was disappointed by this episode; slow and tedious, even the Doctor wasn't his tasty self I didn't think

[Sarahrob]

I did think this week's episode was quite silly, but I liked it because of its silliness. I loved spotting the book titles (how they managed to work in "N or M") and Donna giving plotlines away - it did make me giggle.
Nothing to do with the champagne I'd had with tea. Honestly.

[Isidro]

We loved it too! Silly and very much a WhoDunnit, but with a Dr Who twist, played with humour, not very deep at all but so much FUN!

[prospero]

I was disappointed by this episode; slow and tedious, even the Doctor wasn't his tasty self I didn't think

What?! Never!

(Did you see him on Derren Brown? I don't mean literally on him...ooh, there's a thought...I mean, as a guest on his show)?

[Mia]

I saw him on Derren Brown's show! It was really good and David looked absolutely gorgeous. He seems to be such a nice bloke. I was really impressed by the end trick with the automatic writing.

[kb.marsh]

If I'm going to be really honest, I don't think this series of Dr. Who is as good as Tennant's others.

This may be a dum question, but are they going to re-generate the Doctor this series?

[Michelle]

I've quite enjoyed this series, overall.. I think they've all had high and low points.

As far as I'm aware, David Tennant is doing the Christmas special, plus 3 specials next year (there will no actual series) - no one knows beyond that.

I did hear that Catherine Tate is stopping after this series...?

[kb.marsh]

They aren't doing a series next year?! Do we know why?

[prospero]

I saw him on Derren Brown's show! It was really good and David looked absolutely gorgeous. He seems to be such a nice bloke. I was really impressed by the end trick with the automatic writing.

The stopping-someone-on-the-street-and-getting-them-to-draw-something was a load of old toot though. There's always a pretty good chance if you ask someone for a doodle they'll present you with a cat; it's a common enough thing.

He still looked hot though (David Tennant I mean...although Derren Brown does too). ;)

[Michelle]

They aren't doing a series next year?! Do we know why?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6976178.stm

[Isidro]

No series? Blimey, that's not good.

[Sarahrob]

(Did you see him on Derren Brown? I don't mean literally on him...ooh, there's a thought...I mean, as a guest on his show)?

Happy thought indeed:lol:

[Laramie]

The stopping-someone-on-the-street-and-getting-them-to-draw-something was a load of old toot though. There's always a pretty good chance if you ask someone for a doodle they'll present you with a cat; it's a common enough thing.

my mum said it's to do with prompts. She said somewhere on his way to meet darren brown or even in the room, there would have been a picture of a cat, looking just like that (didn't he have to move some paper? it was probably on that), and the same for the person he asked.

He did this trick a while ago where he got these people to do a poster for something, and he knew exactly what they were going to write because of all these prompts they saw without even realising it when they were in the car.

[prospero]

Yer mum's right! I saw that episode too. Fascinating stuff. Might even purchase the DVD of the series at some point and have me a Derren Brown binge!

[Janet]

I wrote to Derren Brown a couple of years ago and he sent me an autographed photo! :D

[prospero]

I now hate you. :irked:

[Janet]

I now hate you. :irked:
Ah, you're just saying that! ;)

[OnyxAngel]

I watched him on the show with Derren Brown too I loved it :)

[~V~]

The stopping-someone-on-the-street-and-getting-them-to-draw-something was a load of old toot though. There's always a pretty good chance if you ask someone for a doodle they'll present you with a cat; it's a common enough thing.

He still looked hot though (David Tennant I mean...although Derren Brown does too). ;)
He also said 'not a stick man or house' so that meant it HAD to be a cat really. Dogs are too hard and boats too obscure and I think these are the next things.

Anyway, who got the titles of the Christie books on Saturday? I got 16 did I miss any?

[Janet]

Anyway, who got the titles of the Christie books on Saturday? I got 16 did I miss any?
According to the mighty Wikipedia there were 21:

And Then There Were None
Appointment with Death
Cards on the Table
Cat Among the Pigeons
Crooked House
Dead Man's Folly
Death Comes as the End
Death in the Clouds
Endless Night
Murder On The Orient Express
N or M?
Nemesis
Sparkling Cyanide
Taken at the Flood
The Body in the Library
The Moving Finger
The Murder at the Vicarage
The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
The Secret Adversary
They Do It With Mirrors
Why Didn't They Ask Evans

And Donna also mentions Miss Marple. :)

We got 16 of them too!

[~V~]

According to the mighty Wikipedia there were 21:

And Then There Were None
Appointment with Death
Cards on the Table
Cat Among the Pigeons
Crooked House
Dead Man's Folly
Death Comes as the End
Death in the Clouds
Endless Night
Murder On The Orient Express
N or M?
Nemesis
Sparkling Cyanide
Taken at the Flood
The Body in the Library
The Moving Finger
The Murder at the Vicarage
The Murder of Roger Ackroyd
The Secret Adversary
They Do It With Mirrors
Why Didn't They Ask Evans

And Donna also mentions Miss Marple. :)

We got 16 of them too!

That's cheating!!!! :lol:

They mentioned Murder on the Orient Express? Blimey!

They mention Poirot too - right at the start they are asking her why he's Belgian.

The book we saw was 'The Murder of Roger Ackroyd'. This was first published in June 1926. I think the episode was set in 1926 wasn't it?

[Janet]

I did say we got 16 too! :p

Donna mentioned Murder on the Orient Express quite early on in the episode.

There were also allusions to the board game Cluedo - Professor Peach being the obvious one!

[~V~]

There were also allusions to the board game Cluedo - Professor Peach being the obvious one!

Yes, the 'in a library with a lead pipe' thing. I thought that was a bit of a cheaty cop-out.

Or somebody didn't know the difference :roll:

[Mia]

I wrote to Derren Brown a couple of years ago and he sent me an autographed photo! :D

D'you hang it over the mantelpiece to keep the kids away from the fire? ;)
I like his programme but the guy is very creepy looking and I don't like to look at him!

[Janet]

D'you hang it over the mantelpiece to keep the kids away from the fire? ;)
:lol: I don't find him creepy. Mind you, he wouldn't fancy me!

[~V~]

:lol: I don't find him creepy. Mind you, he wouldn't fancy me!

He liked Tennant in the water ;)

[OnyxAngel]

He liked Tennant in the water ;)


I liked Tennant in the water and then in the dressing robe :mrgreen::lol:

Still annoyed at the Eurovision for keep postponing Doctor Who :motz:
*sigh* Oh well

[Laramie]

There were some on the fear factor that weren't actual mentions. Here are all the ones they put: The Man in the Brown Suit, Appointment with Death, The Unexpected Guests, The Body in the Library, The Double Clue, Strange Jest, The Unbreakable Alibi, The House of Dreams, The Four Suspects, Curtain, Wasp's Nest, The Lonely God, Dead Man's Folly, Murder is Easy, The Blood-Stained Pavement, The Call of Wings, Cards on the Table, The Love Detectives, Butter in a Lordly Dish, While the Light Lasts, The Theft of the Royal Ruby, Endless Night, Crooked House, The Actress, Ordeal by Innocence, Personal Call, Taken by the Flood, The Moving Finger, Sanctuary, They Do It with Mirrors, Nemesis, Destination Unknown, The Voice in the Dark, Death Comes as the End, Murder at the Vicarage, Dumb Witness, Have You Got Everything You Want?, Death in the Clouds, Destination Unknown.

Well, I assumed they were Christie novels, anyway. Dunno if they are.

[OnyxAngel]

Anybody else seen the new mid series trailer?

It looks amazingly fantastic!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Laramie]

Ohhh, I was gonna say that yeah I have and I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

[OnyxAngel]

Me neither
*squee* :lol:

[Laramie]

I had to explain to my friend what *squee* meant today :roll:

[OnyxAngel]

:lol: ok

[O's]

It was cool, but I wish it held back some info. It gave too much away!

[Sedgewick]

As a lifelong Doctor Who fan, I've been equally pleased and appalled with what has been done with the show these last few years. The return was fantastic and the pairing of Christopher Ecclestone and Billie Piper was a great piece of casting. It's just a shame that Ecclestone bowed out so early as the gurning fool that is David Tennant has been a lowlight of the show for the last three years - his incarnation, when he finally moves on, will probably by my least favourite doctor of the ten who have, canonically, played the role.

As regards the episodes, I'm still not convinced that 45 minutes is long enough for a good episode although there are instances (Blink, for example, or The Girl In The Fireplace) that show it can be done. I suppose by citing those two it shows utmost respect for what Steven Moffat has put in to the show. Russell T. Davies' episodes are more hit and miss (with an overuse of the same old tropes) but, at the same time, I realise he is writing more episodes than anyone else. He has produced some good ones (The Long Game, Gridlock, etc.) but there have been a number of right stinkers in there, especially that awful Big Brother/The Weakest Link in space episode - and that's his problem, he like to shoehorn contemporary references into a time travel show, as if some crappy TV programmes will still be getting commissioned in the year 51st Century. (If one is, please let it be Doctor Who, of course.)

But, at the same time, RTD has produced an interesting four season long story arc, which we are soon to see the finale of. While the scripts may have been dodgy at times along the way, it's also plain to see how much seeding has been done as far back as season one as regards the finale of season four.

It will also be great to see what the latest production crew can do with Davros, who is hinted at in the latest season trailer on the BBC website.

[Sedgewick]

I think she [Jenny] will be back in the finale
Probably not. The plan was to have her die at the end of the episode and that was the last we'd hear of her (thankfully). But, Steven Moffat asked that she be kept alive, for purposes unknown, and with him set to take over the show in 2010, I see that as being when she comes back into the series.

[Laramie]

ooooh cool that sounds good :D

heh, I think half the time RTD puts in these random mentions and only afterwards comes up with the explanation! XD

[Mia]

Tonight's episode was rather good! It was bloody scary in parts too - all the kiddies must have been terrified at the sight of a skull in a spacesuit menacingly stalking towards our heroes (I know I was scared!). The death of the young girl was very sad too, with her voice repeating on after she died. :( Can't wait for part two!

[Michelle]

There must be something wrong, because I agree with you! ;) I loved that episode, and I can't wait for the next one! :D It built up great, it was rather scary, and touching too.

[Mia]

There must be something wrong, because I agree with you! ;)

:lol: Obviously one or the other of us is not feeling at all well.

[Laramie]

OMG last night was sooooooo great, I loved it!!!!
I both adore and loathe Stephen Moffat!!!:lol:
om gaaawwwwd........CAN'T WAIT!

[Sedgewick]

The death of the young girl was very sad too, with her voice repeating on after she died. But at the same time, while she was nice to look at - and should have been wearing a space-bikini - the acting was terrible...until she died. But then, she\'s in the cast for next week. So we\'ll see.

[Michelle]

I like the way they pointed out on Confidential how much The Doctor likes books. :D

[Mia]

Yeah, but how many kids are going to be put off reading by this episode? Can you imagine it: "Hey kids, wanna go to the library?" *Traumatised kids run off screaming* ;)

[Laramie]

lol I can just see that XD (BTW that actually made me laugh out loud. Literally.)

[Isidro]

Yeah, but how many kids are going to be put off reading by this episode? Can you imagine it: "Hey kids, wanna go to the library?" *Traumatised kids run off screaming* ;)

My 8 yr old announced at the end - When we go to the library can I take my torch?

[O's]

But at the same time, while she was nice to look at - and should have been wearing a space-bikini - the acting was terrible...until she died. But then, she\'s in the cast for next week. So we\'ll see.

The acting was not too bad, she played an idiot well.

[Sedgewick]

Nah. Too much pouting.

[Laramie]

My 8 yr old announced at the end - When we go to the library can I take my torch?
*laughs out loud* bless! At least s/he has not been scarred for life by the episode XD

[Mia]

Just some David Tennant trivia... Apparently he is now dating Georgia Moffatt, who played the Doctor's daughter!

Also, he is on Derren Brown's show again on Friday.

[Laramie]

heh cool.

ooooh cool is it a new one or a repeat?

[Mia]

It's not a repeat - for the final show of the series he is gathering together everyone from this series (including Tennant!) and playing some kind of trick on them. It should be good, especially watching how DT interacts with members of the public.

[Laramie]

ooh cool i shall have to look when it is
thanks!

[Mia]

It's 10.00pm tonight on C4. :)

[Michelle]

Well, before I start wandering around forums etc, getting the good and bad responses, I just wanted to say that I LOVED that episode! :D

[Inver]

Totally confused and mixed up with tonights episode!! Kenny says it could have been better.

[Michelle]

Possibly a little too confusing for younger viewers.. I'm not looking forward to explaining this to my 9 year old (who's watching at her nan's)!

[Mia]

Ha! It was too confusing for me, never mind a 9 year old! ;) But it all became clear at the end.

Hold onto your hat Michelle, 'cos I loved that episode too! I thought the whole concept was very clever. Stephen Moffatt is probably my fave Dr Who writer, and I'm glad he'll be taking over from Russell T Davies.

The bit with Donna in her virtual world was quite unsettling, the way everything moved on in a flash, but excellent. I love it in films etc when the character finds themselves in a weird place and knows everything's not quite right, but they can't find out how.

It was such a shame at the end when Donna just missed seeing her perfect husband and he couldn't shout to her in time because of his stammer! Nooooo!

I'm glad River Song was "saved" as that was a bit sad and she was very brave. Loved the bit of humour about the handcuffs! :lol:

[Michelle]

Hold onto your hat Michelle, 'cos I loved that episode too!

We've been brought together by Moffatt! :lol:

[Janet]

Kudos to Katherine Tate (of whom I'm not normally a fan, although I've loved her as Donna from the start). Her portrayal of Donna's misery when her children disappeared was heartrending - I was crying along with her!

Great episode - if a bit confusing in places.

[angelofboox]

Can anyone say Time Traveler's Wife? ;)

[Michelle]

Oh absolutely.. but I get the impression that Moffatt is a huge fan of books, so he's probably read it, and wanted to use the idea. It's being discussed on other forums, so maybe a few Dr Who fans might now pick up the book. :)

[O's]

I suppose she had the pout down to a t, its something to hold onto :blush:

[vampirebloom]

wow... that's what i call and episode... 10/10 best of the series so far, i'm really looking forward to next week's :mrgreen:

[Sedgewick]

A good script from Moffat, let down in some places by his use of repeated tropes, especially his 'The Doctor Dances' cry of everybody lives, the get-out-of-jail card that was a trapdoor leading to...er, nowhere...to aid the Doc's escape.

The second part was also a bit predictable but still contained many good ideas, notably characters conscious of scene continuity, in the case of Donna in the hard drive. I doubt we'll meet River Song again, at least on TV, as it's an interesting bit of speculation that should last and last and last, if you believe Moffat in Dr Who Confidential.

Overall, though, it was the strongest of the season so far and will probably remains so, especially since it's all Davies epsodes from now up until 2010.

[Mia]

Overall, though, it was the strongest of the season so far and will probably remains so, especially since it's all Davies epsodes from now up until 2010.

Is it? That's rather disappointing. I don't mind Davies, but I prefer Moffat's writing.

[Sedgewick]

Is it? That\'s rather disappointing. Yes: For this season: Midnight Turn Left TBA Journeys End And then the four specials next year.

[vampirebloom]

wow...that was weird :O
... noooooo next week

[Laramie]

OMG! I loved Midnight! It should've had another part, though. They should've condensed the Sontaran pair into one and given this one another one, with it running around the thingy where Donna was.

[OnyxAngel]

I have really loved the last 3 episodes and can't wait for the finale it looks great!

Yeah I agree DWMG Midnight should have been a 2 parter

[angelofboox]

I thought the premise was really good but the second half of the episode seemed very compressed and...somewhat anti-climactic (?) in comparison to most Dr Who episodes.

I thought the boy was cute. On researching him I have decided I am not secretly in love with him. *shifty*

[Laramie]

Don't worry, my friend Chloe likes him too. Anna and I simply admit he's quite good looking.

BTW I love your avatar...said it on the avatar thread, but I don't think you've been on. ((angelofboox))

[OnyxAngel]

I thought the boy was cute. On researching him I have decided I am not secretly in love with him. *shifty*

Yep I loved Jethro too, he's a lot like me according to mum and dad:lol:

[Mia]

I can't make my mind up about that episode... I sort of liked it, but sort of didn't! It was quite clever, but the endless repetition of people's words started to drive me nuts. Saying that, I was very impressed with Lesley Sharpe and David Tennant; when they had to say their lines simultaneously they were spot on! (Unless it was editing trickery, in which case I'm so disillusioned. :( )

I know why I didn't like it: it was too much a Lord of the Flies situation, with everyone turning on everyone else. Plus my beloved Doctor nearly got murdered. :( Plus, I actually think it suffered from Donna not being there. She would have been great, but of course it would have spoiled the story as the Doctor would have had an ally.

Liked the fleeting Rose appearance. Next week's looks amazing, but I'm scared Donna is going to get killed - they've been dropping hints all over the place. :(

[Michelle]

Something's wrong here Mia, because we seem to agree again! The repetition and such got just a bit too much, but it was scary in a very different way to usual episodes.

May daughter is a huge Rose fan, and she is SO excited about next week's.. I think it looks amazing too.

However, there was an article about in the Dr Who magazine (the 'gown up one, not the one with all the free gifts etc ;)).. I'll spoil tag it, for those who keep away from everything like that.. apparently it's something along the lines of the film Sliding Doors, and it shows a Donna who has never met the Doctor. So it could all be an 'this is how her could have been' kind of thing.. so you could have a dead doctor, and a nuclear war, and yet none of it will have happened.. if that makes sense?

[OnyxAngel]

Something's wrong here Mia, because we seem to agree again! The repetition and such got just a bit too much, but it was scary in a very different way to usual episodes.

May daughter is a huge Rose fan, and she is SO excited about next week's.. I think it looks amazing too.

However, there was an article about in the Dr Who magazine (the 'gown up one, not the one with all the free gifts etc ;)).. I'll spoil tag it, for those who keep away from everything like that.. apparently it's something along the lines of the film Sliding Doors, and it shows a Donna who has never met the Doctor. So it could all be an 'this is how her could have been' kind of thing.. so you could have a dead doctor, and a nuclear war, and yet none of it will have happened.. if that makes sense?


Ooh interesting, yet confusing :lol:

*Squee* Really can't wait for Rose's return!!! :mrgreen:

[burghead lass]

I can't make my mind up about that episode... I sort of liked it, but sort of didn't! It was quite clever, but the endless repetition of people's words started to drive me nuts. Saying that, I was very impressed with Lesley Sharpe and David Tennant; when they had to say their lines simultaneously they were spot on! (Unless it was editing trickery, in which case I'm so disillusioned. :( )

I thought last weeks was really strange but good at the same time as the timing was brillient too. Looking forward to nexts weeks I loved the trailer seems like we could have a really good and exciting epesode.

[Sedge]

I'm always impressed with Lesley Sharpe. Did anybody catch her a few years ago in The Second Coming with Christopher Eccleston?

[Janet]

I'm always impressed with Lesley Sharpe. Did anybody catch her a few years ago in The Second Coming with Christopher Eccleston?
I did - it was great. I liked the bloke who is a bank manager in the Nationwide adverts in it too.

[Mia]

I used to watch her in that thing where she was psychic (oh dear, can't remember the name of it). I like her, but sometimes her voice is kind of flat and monotonous and becomes a bit irritating.

[Laramie]

TBH, I think it's more exciting to watch for Rose's random appearances than it is to have her back XD

That isn't to say I won't be screaming rather loudly the moment I see her...:mrgreen:

[Michelle]

It appears that the title of the 12th episode has been released.. The Stolen Earth. There's a funny preview here (http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=sneak_preview_of_doctor_who).

[Janet]

Oh wow, oh wow, oh wow! Our friends were in this episode. :D

We knew they were going to be (the bloke is a permanent extra in DW and Casualty/Holby City), and one of the sons has been in one before, but all four were in this. What a buzz to see them!

[Mia]

Wow, that episode was amazing! I loved it, even though DT was hardly in it.

I'm fascinated by stories based on what happens if you take a certain decision or go a different way, so this was really interesting for me anyway. The whole thing was bloody scary really. The part where the family were taken off to the "labour" camps was downright disturbing and nearly had me in tears. :( And the father of the family was so dignified and stoic, even though he knew what was going to happen. *sniffle* Donna was a bit slow on the uptake there though. :roll:

Overall, I thought Catherine Tate did a really good job and carried the episode well. I got so caught up in things that I didn't really miss the Doctor at all (unthinkable!). I think she makes it very believable - it's a nice change to have people showing they're terrified, instead of being all gung-ho about things. When she realised what she had to do and made the ultimate sacrifice... :eek: Very brave indeed.

It's nice to see Rose back, even though at the moment I still think it's a bit of a cheat. I thought her voice was really weird tonight though - how come I've never noticed before that she talks with a Sean Connery-esque, mouthful-of-cotton-wool type indistinction? Has she always been like this? :confused:

I loved the end of the ep, when Donna told the Doctor "Bad Wolf", and his reaction, then when they charged outside and all the signs read Bad Wolf, even the ones on the Tardis. Excellent! :D

Can't wait for next week's ep (it's not the last one, is it?).

[Janet]

It's nice to see Rose back, even though at the moment I still think it's a bit of a cheat. I thought her voice was really weird tonight though - how come I've never noticed before that she talks with a Sean Connery-esque, mouthful-of-cotton-wool type indistinction? Has she always been like this? :confused:
We commented on that too - it was decidedly odd.

I'm pretty sure next week's isn't the last one. :)

[Sarahrob]

It's nice to see Rose back, even though at the moment I still think it's a bit of a cheat. I thought her voice was really weird tonight though - how come I've never noticed before that she talks with a Sean Connery-esque, mouthful-of-cotton-wool type indistinction? Has she always been like this? :confused:

Shlightly shtrange, washn't it? I'm pretty sure it wasn't like that before (it certainly wasn't in the Canterbury Tales).

I missed the first 20 minutes tonight, so found it all slightly bewildering, especially that Catherine Tate had gone back to being slightly shrieky, but by the end it all made sense. Kind of.
Looking forward to next week's episode now :mrgreen:

[Michelle]

Fancy missing the beginning! Basically, Donna went to see a fortune teller, and the beetle got on her back. Together, they pushed her back in time, and made her turn right instead of left.. this meant that she got a different job, and therefore changed her future. She never met The Doctor, and so wasn't there to get him out from under the Thames, after he drowned the Racnoss. So, the story from then on was what would have happened without The Doctor.

Rose was 'sent' to help her, by sending her back in time, to make sure that she made the right decision.

We were at a get together yesterday, and it was really funny seeing silence descend as it started. Plus, there were more adults enthralled than children!

[OnyxAngel]

Yesterday's episode was mazing!!!

Rose is quite creepy in a cool way now.
Bet she can't wait to meet The Doctor again
The great hair line had me nodding and laughing :lol:

The entire episode can only be described in one word: WOW!

Really can't wait for next week's and then the week's after.

I just wish Owen and Tosh weren't dead so we could have 4 hot guys and loads of great girls.

[Isidro]

The part where the family were taken off to the "labour" camps was downright disturbing and nearly had me in tears. :( And the father of the family was so dignified and stoic, even though he knew what was going to happen. *sniffle*

That had me in floods!

[Michelle]

Is anyone else getting REALLY excited about the finale? My daughter and I are just terrible!! hehe

[Nici76]

Robbie is VERY excited! :D

[Michelle]

Yes, but at his age, it's fine - I'm a grown woman, for goodness sake! :lol:

[Janet]

I'm excited too, Michelle! :exc:

[Tiger]

I haven't really been following this series much, but I'll be glad to watch this week's one. Looks really good! :hyper:

[Isidro]

Yes, but at his age, it's fine - I'm a grown woman, for goodness sake! :lol:

And?

Sarah-Jane is in it....... :D

[Isidro]

O.m.g!

[Michelle]

That was excellent stuff.. I loved the humour dotted through it! :D What is happening with the regeneration? Apparently there are photos of two doctors, so does something go wrong? Dalek Cann was fantastic - a totally insane dalek! :lol:

[Isidro]

butbutbut.... Sarah-Jane, in the car...... Nononononononononono!!!!!

[Mia]

The Doctor! Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :(

[Michelle]

Did anyone else hear the 'drumming' whilst Donna was sitting on the stairs?!!

How am I supposed to wait until next Saturday?! :irked:

[Louiseog]

Did anyone else hear the 'drumming' whilst Donna was sitting on the stairs?!!

How am I supposed to wait until next Saturday?! :irked:
Yes to the drumming and I am beside myself!

Mia, you must have been sitting on my sofa, my nine year old cried

[Mia]

I suppose a 9 year old has some excuse - don't know what mine is! No, I didn't cry, but I'm feeling very depressed. (Yes, I know it's just a TV programme.) I just hope there's some loophole where he regenerates into... David Tennant!

[Michelle]

Well, as I said, there have been photos of two doctors; someone has said that having his hand in close proximity might stop him changing during the regeneration; there's also the fact that they're a second ahead whilst in the medusa cascade.. maybe things change when they come out?

I have however, said to my daughter that IF David is leaving, I shall SOB! People have been posting photos of the filming of the Christmas special though, with him in it - surely they wouldn't go THAT far to pretend he's staying on??

As for Donna, there has been talk on forums about her being a timelord (lady?). I wasn't sure how I would feel about it, because the fob watch thing has been done twice before.. but going by how excited I got when I heard the drumming, I actually think I would love it! :D

[O's]

Thats was good, although I think they will find a way to flip it back again like they did wotht the paradox engine a while back.

[Janet]

As for Donna, there has been talk on forums about her being a timelord (lady?). I wasn't sure how I would feel about it, because the fob watch thing has been done twice before.. but going by how excited I got when I heard the drumming, I actually think I would love it! :D
According to threads on Digital Spy...
people are talking about her name and her job as a temp (which is mentioned every ep.)

In latin, Donna Noble Temp is: Lady Lord Time.

But, if true, it assumes that it was always their intention to keep Donna on, even when she was only meant to be in The Runaway Bride, so who knows!

[Janet]

Noooooooooooo.

No. No. No. :(

Gutted. :(

[Mia]

Noooooooooooo.

No. No. No. :(

Gutted. :(

What Janet said. :( I'll write more when I'm feeling less upset.

[madcow]

Oh dear, must have been bad then!

[Michelle]

I'm not really sure where you two are going.. gutted because of the episode, or gutted because it's ended? Views are mixed on the digital spy forum, that's for sure.

I'm going to say that I really enjoyed it.. the scene with Rose could have been quite sickly, but there was that feeling that she wasn't quite convinced, and she didn't have her doctor.

I found the scene very emotional when Davros was pointing out that although the doctor was ant-violence, many people involved with him had died.

The ending with Donna was also sad.. she has really changed and grown during her time with him, and she loved the travelling so much. And now, it's all gone, and she's back to her old life.

And of course, there was the naked David! :lol:

[Mia]

I'm not really sure where you two are going.. gutted because of the episode, or gutted because it's ended? Views are mixed on the digital spy forum, that's for sure.

Gutted because of the episode! Though now you mention it, gutted because it was the last one too.

I just feel so, so sad about Donna. The way she'd done so much, been the most important woman in the universe, saved the universe at least twice... and now she's back to her old, humdrum life, without knowing just how great she was/could be. How will she achieve her potential now? Chances are, she won't. :(

Still, as my mum pointed out, she seemed happy in her old life. Also, I guess it would be worse for her if she remembered everything but could never go back to it. But the bit where she begged the Doctor not to wipe her mind... And the bit at the end where she didn't know him and dismissed him casually as some stranger... And then where the Doctor was alone in the Tardis... *sob!*

Conversely, Rose's (second) goodbye didn't affect me in the slightest, even though I was in floods of tears when she first got separated from the Doctor. I just had no emotional attachment to her this time, and her lisping voice was really getting on my bloody wick. :mad:

On the plus side, the Doctor "regenerated" into David Tennant! Two David Tennants!! One of them briefly naked!!! (Although the camera angle was a little too high for my liking.) :lol:

I don't really understand why the Doctor is always reluctant to kill - he castigated his other self for getting rid of the Daleks, but surely it had to be done? They were going to destroy every other lifeform in all the worlds! Surely a timelord would see that it was necessary to save everything else?

Anyway, it was a good episode, but I found lots of it very sad. :( And now I'll have to wait until Xmas for more David Tennant. :( :(

[Michelle]

On the plus side, the Doctor "regenerated" into David Tennant! Two David Tennants!! One of them briefly naked!!! (Although the camera angle was a little too high for my liking.) :lol:

That's just what I said about the camera! ;)

The Donna stuff was great, and yes, Rose has been annoying!

[Laramie]

wow, I'm glad I avoided this thread!! I've developed a sudden alergic reaction to spoilers, so I've been avoiding this thread like the plague for the last few weeks! Good job too, because reading back I see that there were a fair few.

Basically, I LOVED THE LAST THREE!!

Aww it was dead sweet that the *sort of* Doctor and Rose got a happy ending, but heartbreaking for the proper Doctor. I LOVED the German daleks! This Davros is the best I've seen so far (and I've seen a fair few of them). I adore dalek Caan's insane laugh and waving tentacles. :lol: I kept doing it all week! (actually, it's in my msn name :mrgreen:)

Errm...what else...Sad that Donna can't remember...Can't think of anything I have to say...If I think of anything I'll come back.

Cybermen at Christmas! Can't wait!

[Nici76]

Cybermen at Christmas! Can't wait!

That's exactly what Robbie said! He is very excited!

[Laramie]

teehee :D

BTW I'll just add; so glad that they didn't have a preview of this week last week. Previews really get on my nerves; you're thinking "oh no, they're all gonna die! No, wait, they get in that trouble, so they must survive".

[Michelle]

I'm pretty sure that anything that could be considered a 'spoiler' was tagged?

I have a Dalek Cann .wav on my pc for when my email comes in - makes me smile every time! LOL

I have to say though, I'm not so keen on the idea of cybermen yet again.

[Laramie]

There was stuff about pictures of 2 Doctors, and a few others, though I can't remember what they were right now. My newly developed aversion includes those sorts of things :mrgreen:

[Michelle]

Oh yea, sorry 'bout that - but I did say 'apparently'. ;)

[Louiseog]

I think we all know that a thread about a show as exciting as this may reveal some tasters, and like Laramie said its easier if you don't want to know anything not to look at all (specially because I can never resist looking at spoiler tags:lol:)

Last night could not follow last weeks I felt a bit anti climaxy I had to put the tea on for the last ten minutes so missed the Donna bit but was sad, think that was the saddest bit in that she had changed so much since she had travelled with D, Bernard Cribbens just made me weep, felt so sorry for the the doctor. Loved the Mickey and Jack relationship and when Donna kept asking Jack to hug her, as usual funny as well as moving!

I like the Cybermen.

[Michelle]

I think it's very hard making a two part finale.. part one builds up so many things, then leaves everyone waiting for a week.. in which time everyone comes up with their own ideas, rumours etc - I think it's almost impossible to live up to it.

I've just watched it again this morning, and enjoyed it - the bit with Donna seemed even more sad. :(

[Laramie]

I was a little annoyed that they were using the daleks as a finale again, but at least there was davros too. I think it's a bit stupid to keep using them as a finale, because it's not giving other monsters/villains/aliens a chance at becoming a real legend. The ones in the finale are always remembered the best.

[Michelle]

Yes, but to a lot of people, the daleks are such an integral part of Doctor Who. Remembering that this was RTD's last finale, I think it was quite fitting that we had the 'biggest', most well known enemies. :)

I have a feeling that when Moffatt takes over, it will be a rather different type of programme, without so many of the big enemies, and many more 'subtle' ones.

[Laramie]

I'm hoping it'll get a lot scarier now he's in charge : D

[Mia]

I'm looking forward to Moffatt being in charge, as some of my favourite stories have been his (Blink, The Girl in the Fireplace, the one with the kids wearing gas masks).

I forgot to say yesterday that I too loved the Daleks speaking German! I think they were even more scary than Daleks speaking English! The Daleks have always been my favourite baddies and the only ones that really scared me when I was a child.

Can someone answer me this? The prophecy "everlasting death for the most faithful companion" got me very worried that someone was going to die. But everyone survived didn't they? So who/what does this refer to? Or did I miss something?

Louise - how could you go and put the tea on for the last ten minutes?!!

[Michelle]

I pretty sure it was meant to mean "death" for Donna, in that she went back to being her pre-doctor herself. I do think that alot of fans, including myself, were a bit put out by that.. I appreciate it's a family show, but don't put so much emphasis on someone dying, if it's not going to happen.

He's done it before, with Rose.. "This is how I died." actually meant that she "died" in our world, but lived in the parellel world.. but that did actually make sense. This time round, it really was a cop out!

[Mia]

Ah thanks, I was thinking that it meant Donna and was more metaphorical. I'm glad it wasn't literal and no-one close to the Doctor died (it was depressing enough!).

[Michelle]

Does anyone else feel really depressed and lost now that it's finished? Overall, I have really enjoyed this series, I just adore Tennant's doctor.. and I don't want to wait until Christmas! :(

[Mia]

Yes, especially as I read that there'll be the Xmas special, then 3 specials in 2009, and then David Tennant will be leaving!!! :cry2:

[Michelle]

Is that confirmed.. about him leaving? The last I knew, nothing had been decided about 2010.

[Mia]

I think what I said was just rumour... at least I hope so! DT does strike me as the kind of guy who'll say that he doesn't want to get typecast, and is keen to try new projects. I hope he stays.

[Michelle]

I do think that they're hoping he'll carry on..
However, Tennant's long-term future as the Time Lord remains uncertain. He will star in a Doctor Who Christmas special this year and another three specials next year, but is not confirmed for the next full series of the show, scheduled for 2010.

The series has been postponed so that the star, who is the tenth actor to feature in the role, can take to the stage to play Hamlet with the Royal Shakespeare Company.
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/2257483/Dr-Who-viewing-figures-reach-9.8-million.html)

[Laramie]

They keep changing their mind on how many specials there are. I've heard anything from 2 to 5.

[Enthusiast]

Glad I found this thread. Loved the last episode a lot! :)
I know that the Dalek's aren't gone, apparently, they were working on a new breed of them in Italy or somewere, and there was one that didn't die because he wasn't connected to davro's genetic genes. Well that's what I heard anyway. (:
And if Davros wasn't leading the Dalek's, who was? We never found out. I think The Master. http://www.gangparadise.com/Images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
I'm also glad about Rose and The Doctor as well. It's about time something good happened to her. Another funny thing is, I was talking to my friend at school after the penultimate episode, and we thought that the two members of the Torchwood team would die. And I said that I wasn't surprised that they didn't have better defences. And then look at that.. they come out with a time-lock-bubble. Brilliant. http://www.gangparadise.com/Images/smilies/icon_smile.gif RTD will be missed in my opinion, great writer. :)

[Laramie]

The leader was the Supreme Dalek :)

[Enthusiast]

Hmm still. Didn't seem so special to me. Lol.. I think the master is back in the christmas special, and I don't think the prophecy has been fulfilled yet. ;)

[Mia]

Trivia from today's paper: Russell T Davies saying that the Doctor won't regenerate into a woman when DT leaves, because he wants to spare dads having to explain to their kids about the, er, change in genitalia. :mrgreen:

[Enthusiast]

Lol! That comment made me laugh. Who does everyone think his new companion is going to be?

[O's]

He should go find ace, she was much better than the new companions. She blew stuff up and hit darleks with a baseball bat. Thats hardcore.

[Enthusiast]

He should go find ace, she was much better than the new companions. She blew stuff up and hit darleks with a baseball bat. Thats hardcore.

Lol. Like this --->:motz:

[Laramie]

I don't think the prophecy has been fulfilled yet. ;)
ooh, good point. I thought it might be Sarah-Jane, cuz the most faithful companion bit...but I dunno. She said she didn't want to/think she would come back. But then so did Billie Piper. I did think it was odd if they meant the Time Lord bit of Donna.
Trivia from today's paper: Russell T Davies saying that the Doctor won't regenerate into a woman when DT leaves, because he wants to spare dads having to explain to their kids about the, er, change in genitalia. :mrgreen:
ooh goody. Though I still don't believe a word that man says, they've got to number 10 without having a woman and it'd just be stupid now. They wanted to regenerate him into a woman, fine, but they needed to start by number 2 or 3.
He should go find ace, she was much better than the new companions. She blew stuff up and hit darleks with a baseball bat. Thats hardcore.
Hell yeah! Ace rocks! "I'm hungry! Lack of food makes me hungry!"

[O's]

He won't regenerate into a woman - because he's male. No other timelord has changed gender when regenerating, why should he? The rani never became a man and the master never a woman and they have all died enough to test the theory.

[Laramie]

Another good point, backs up mine all the more. We rock! If the Doctor regenerates into a woman (much as I want to be the next Doctor :mrgreen:) we shall storm the BBC!

[Enthusiast]

It won't happen. :)

[Laramie]

I doubt it :mrgreen: