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Kell
27th March 2008, 06:59
The reading circle choice for April is Mr Pip by Lloyd Jones:

'You cannot pretend to read a book. Your eyes will give you away. So will your breathing. A person entranced by a book simply forgets to breathe. The house can catch alight and a reader deep in a book will not look up until the wallpaper is in flames.' It is Bougainville in 1991 - a small village on a lush tropical island in the South Pacific. Eighty-six days have passed since Matilda's last day of school as, quietly, war is encroaching from the other end of the island. When the villagers' safe, predictable lives come to a halt, Bougainville's children are surprised to find the island's only white man, a recluse, re-opening the school. Pop Eye, aka Mr Watts, explains he will introduce the children to Mr Dickens. Matilda and the others think a foreigner is coming to the island and prepare a list of much needed items. They are shocked to discover their acquaintance with Mr Dickens will be through Mr Watts' inspiring reading of "Great Expectations". But on an island at war, the power of fiction has dangerous consequences. Imagination and beliefs are challenged by guns.

Some questions to consider:
1- Who was your favourite character and why?
2- Was there a particular part you enjoyed/disliked more than the rest?
3- Was this the first book you've read in this genre/by this author, has it encouraged you to read more?
4- Were there any parts/ideas you struggled with?
5- Overall, was reading the book an enjoyable experience?

(You do not have to answer all, or indeed, any, of these questions, they are meant only as points for you to perhaps mull over as you read, and provoke more discussion. Please feel free to ask and answer any questions that come up as you read.)

Some additional questions taken from www.readinggroupguides.com: (http://www.readinggroupguides.com/)
(DO NOT READ THESE QUESTIONS TILL YOU HAVE READ THE BOOK, AS THERE MAY BE SPOILERS INVOLVED)
1. Is it important that Mr. Watts is the last white man on the island? Why?

2. Why does Matilda write Pip’s name in the sand alongside the names of her relatives? Why does this upset her mother? How does this contribute to Dolores’s feelings about Mr. Watts’s instruction of her daughter? Are these feelings understandable?

3. Why do you think Mr. Watts pulled his wife in the cart? Why did he wear the red clown nose? What meaning did that have for them?

4. What is the message Matilda’s mother is trying to express to the children with the story of her mother’s braids? How is this related to the issue of Mr. Watts’s faith in God?

5. What did you think of the lessons that the mothers of the children bring to the classroom? If you were the parent of a child in Matilda’s class, what lesson would you teach the children? What might your mother have taught the class?

6. Who is Dolores warning the children about when she tells them the story about the devil lady and the church money? How does this story justify her actions regarding the book and the redskins? Do you agree with Dolores’s refusal to bring forth the book? With Matilda’s?

7. Where do you think Gilbert’s father takes Sam? How do you know? In your opinion, was it necessary that he do so?

8. Why does the corned beef in Mr. Watts’s house "represent a broad hope" for Matilda? Discuss Mr. Watts’s reaction to Matilda’s fragment. Do you believe that Grace was alive when Matilda arrived?

9. Discuss how the characters in this story struggle to reconcile the concepts of race and identity. Does it seem to dictate their interaction with each other? How does it influence their concepts of self? What moments, especially, helped reveal this to you?

10. What is the meaning of the story of the Queen of Sheba? Why does Mr. Watts bring it up? Why is it significant that Dolores is familiar with that story?

11. Why does Dolores step forward to declare herself "God’s witness" to the murder of Mr. Watts? Were you surprised that she did? Why does she insist that Matilda remain silent?

12. Do you think Matilda was able to return home? How would that outcome affect your reading of both novels?

13. Discuss your memorable experiences of being read to as a child. What book made the greatest impact on your life? Did any book come to you at precisely the right time, the way Great Expectations was brought to Matilda?

14. On Great Expectations and Mister Pip: Are both Mister Pip and Great Expectations universal coming-of-age tales? How did you react to the blending of these two distinctly different settings and time periods?

15. The initial lines of Great Expectations are reflected several times in this novel. Compare them to the opening lines of Mister Pip. What connections do these first sentences draw between the themes of both novels?

16. In what way are the narrative voices of Mister Pip and Great Expectations the same? How are they different? What shifts do you notice in the storytelling after Matilda leaves the island? How did this impact your reading?

17. How is Dolores’s treatment of Matilda similar to Estella’s treatment of Pip in Great Expectations? How does this relationship help Matilda understand Pip’s attachment to Estella? Is it necessary that this attachment be severed before Pip/Matilda can grow individually?

18. Why do you think Mr. Watts omitted the characters of Orlick and Compeyson from his telling of Great Expectations? What additional meaning might the children have gleaned from the story if these characters and their storylines, such as Compeyson’s jilting of Miss Havisham, had been included?

19. What is signified by the changing of one’s name, both in Great Expectations and Mister Pip? Why does Matilda not change her name?

20. In what ways does Great Expectations help Matilda cope with her reality and prepare her for the future? How does it help Mr. Watts deal with his past? What makes Great Expectations the ideal Dickens choice for this purpose?

Spooncat
5th April 2008, 10:49
I read this book in a day- it was impossible to put it down :mrgreen: I was sceptical at first as I had flicked to the back and seen that the author was a white middle aged man so wasnt sure that he would sound authentic as the voice of a young black girl- but he excelled himself- I had no difficulty in believing the voice of the narrator- or for that matter picturing the sights,smells and hearing the sounds of the island.

It really is a book that transports you to another time and place. I also cried several times, it really moved me.

why didnt Mr Watts let the children have use of all his books he had in his house?

:readingtwo:

Gyre
8th April 2008, 12:15
I am really enjoying 'Mister Pip' so far, I like the style of writing because its from Matilda's point of view, especially with the things she is witnessing, she is very straight to the point and I like that. :D

happyanddandy
8th April 2008, 12:16
I am 50 pages in and enjoying it very much

Freewheeling Andy
8th April 2008, 13:15
I read this a month or so ago. I really enjoyed it. I've never been a teenage girl so perhaps I'm not in the best position to comment, but I thought Jones got the perspective of a 13 year old teenager very, very well.

I was expecting the fact that I've never read Great Expectations to be a real problem, but it wasn't at all.

happyanddandy
10th April 2008, 13:56
Over 100 pages now and I am bothereed by something that doesn't 'fit'. I wonder if anyone can help please.

Mr Watts pulls his wife about on a cart and wears a red clown's nose at the same time. Why is this? Have I missed something. Is it a joke or what? :smile2:

Thanks in advance.

Gyre
10th April 2008, 22:56
I finished 'Mister Pip' about five minutes ago and I thought it was brilliant, beautifully written, just a really strong story.

I cried at the part with Mr Watts and Matilda's Mum were killled. :cry2:

Spooncat
11th April 2008, 12:46
Over 100 pages now and I am bothereed by something that doesn't 'fit'. I wonder if anyone can help please.

Mr Watts pulls his wife about on a cart and wears a red clown's nose at the same time. Why is this? Have I missed something. Is it a joke or what? :smile2:

Thanks in advance.

Hi keep reading all will be revealed !!

Janet
11th April 2008, 16:54
I posted this elsewhere on the site:

The deaths also came as a complete surprise to me - and I must admit to being quite upset by them.

However, one slight criticism - at the end, Matilda criticises the building in the South East of England, claiming that “I could tell them the landscape from Great Expectations is gone, that it’s fabled marshes lie beneath motorways and industrial estates” is simply not true! I played on those marshes as a child and they’re still there today, in all their glory!

I guess this is just ‘author’s license’ on Mr Jones’ part?!


I loved it!

happyanddandy
11th April 2008, 22:09
I have just finished Paula! I have been reading all evening. Have now sussed out the red nose and trolley pulling. Lol!!

My flesh truly crawled and my stomach turned at the menace and extremely violent deaths of Mr Pip and Matilda's mother. I am finding it harder and harder to read this kind of thing nowadays. I kinda new it was coming but not so suddenly.

However I absolutely loved the description of the Islanders and their lives and the whole beginning bit. I feel a review coming on unless anyone else wants to have a go? Does it matter if more than one of us reviews the same book?

Esiotrot
11th April 2008, 22:11
I have this on my wish list but havent got round to aquiring it yet, so have skim read this thread and not revealed the spoilers. Just wanted to ask a couple of questions to those who have read it -

Have you read Great Expectations?
If not did you feel you were missing something - in your opinion would reading it first have improved the book for you?

MTIA
Kx

happyanddandy
11th April 2008, 22:19
Hi Karol

I roughly new the story of 'Great Expectations' from watching previous BBC dramas as a kid and I don't think I read it then and definitely not as an adult. So I knew about Estella and Miss Havisham and so on. It didn't detract from the story for me at all and I think Andy said the same earlier. That may be different for those who are very familiar with the Dickens novel.

Gyre
11th April 2008, 22:25
I have read 'Great Expectations' Karol but I knew who Mis Havisham was, etc. I did not think it made a difference to the book.

H&D, the part with Mr Watts and Matilda's Mum, I burst into tears and I got worse when Matilda's Mum begged them not to kill her, it was so brutal, I kept hoping that someone would save them, and then when they found Daniel!! oh my goodness!

happyanddandy
11th April 2008, 22:29
Truly vile and such a shock - I would normally avoid this type of writing completely however I am glad to have read it as a great piece of literature.

Michelle
12th April 2008, 08:08
I've also been putting off getting this one, because I haven't read any Dickens. I think I may now have to put this on my wish list. :)

HandD, I don't think it matters at all if we have more than one review.. both here and in the blog. So please go ahead.

Kylie
13th April 2008, 05:31
HandD, I don't think it matters at all if we have more than one review.. both here and in the blog. So please go ahead.

I agree. The more opinions I can read about a book, the better! I love to get as many different points of view as possible about books (what other people did/didn't like etc).

Spooncat
13th April 2008, 10:36
Re Great Expectations - that actually put me off the book at first - I dont like Great Expectations and thought that it would be too boring! but it doesnt take away anything from Mister Pip for me.

Oh gawd the Daniel part - bless him - that was another part I cried at!

Gyre
13th April 2008, 19:01
I think the book was written in such way, that of course, 'Great Expectations' is a big part of it but you become so involved in the characters plight, which for me is just great writing.

Plus the book is a very intense subject but again the way it is written, you don't think about it, you know it is there and you just keep hoping it all work out.
:D

lovesreading06
22nd May 2008, 14:53
Not read any of this thread yet but i reading Mister pip at the mo and it is very funny in pages. People in the office can hear me laughing when i'm in the staff room reading this book before my time starts.

Spooncat
22nd May 2008, 16:49
Not read any of this thread yet but i reading Mister pip at the mo and it is very funny in pages. People in the office can hear me laughing when i'm in the staff room reading this book before my time starts.

Which bits made you laugh?

lovesreading06
25th May 2008, 17:24
When there were going to met Mr Dickens and infact it was a book.

lovesreading06
16th June 2008, 18:30
At first i thought this was going to be a great read and it was untill there The bit where there killed Maltilda Mum. I don't get why there did that but i know why there killed Mr watts. I felt that just runied the book.

I glad i have read the book.

happyanddandy
16th June 2008, 22:13
It was a bit of a shock Laura?

kb.marsh
17th June 2008, 09:22
I really want to read this book. I tried to get it on Read It Swap It but they didn't want to read my books :irked:

lovesreading06
17th June 2008, 15:05
It was a bit of a shock Laura?
Yes it was

I really want to read this book. I tried to get it on Read It Swap It but they didn't want to read my books :irked:

Why not try the library.

kb.marsh
17th June 2008, 15:15
Why not try the library.

Yeah I will do. I need to go there tomorrow to take books back anyway