Tim Stamper Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi I want to go to a book club but I don't want to read the books, where can I get a prepackaged opinion that makes me sound clever and thoughtful? I'm thinking Wikipedia, academic journals and book reviews, anywhere else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissy Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Or, you could be completely wacky and actually read the proposed book! You never know you might just enjoy what you read. The thing is, reading books and formulating opinions about them can actually help you become smarter and more thoughtful. Why not be it rather than just trying to sound it? Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 Or, you could be completely wacky and actually read the proposed book! You never know you might just enjoy what you read. The thing is, reading books and formulating opinions about them can actually help you become smarter and more thoughtful. Why not be it rather than just trying to sound it? Good luck. I'm proving a point to my housemate. And I think reading about facts will make me more intelligent than reading a storybook. Plus its just easier to piggyback off somebody else's thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signor Finzione Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Hi I want to go to a book club but I don't want to read the books, where can I get a prepackaged opinion that makes me sound clever and thoughtful? I think you've come to the wrong place, Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 14, 2014 Author Share Posted October 14, 2014 I think you've come to the wrong place, Tim. Just want opinions and clever things to say, I really can't be bothered reading whatever drivel they vote for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Here's the book for you. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluff-Your-Literature-Bluffer-Guides/dp/0948456035/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=189V9SNJVBV82HHTNJMM There's a classic version too. I'm really not sure what you're trying to prove though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kell Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Just want opinions and clever things to say, I really can't be bothered reading whatever drivel they vote for. Then why bother going at all? The whole point in a book group is to read and discuss books, not to spout off someone elses opinions of a book you haven't read, just so you can sound "clever", because it's NOT clever - it's lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willoyd Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'm proving a point to my housemate. And I think reading about facts will make me more intelligent than reading a storybook. Plus its just easier to piggyback off somebody else's thoughts Reading about facts might make you more informed. Intelligence is something different, and just piggybacking off somebody else's thoughts certainly won't help. Of course, an intelligent person would already know that, as they would also know the value of reading, thinking about and discussing fiction. Story telling is one of the best methods of communicating knowledge and understanding,which is why humans have done it since the dawn of humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Begins Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Story telling is one of the best methods of communicating knowledge and understanding,which is why humans have done it since the dawn of humanity. Edited October 14, 2014 by Anna Begins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emelee Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 Here's the book for you. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluff-Your-Literature-Bluffer-Guides/dp/0948456035/ref=pd_sim_b_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=189V9SNJVBV82HHTNJMM There's a classic version too. I'm really not sure what you're trying to prove though. There really is such a book? LOL. And more, I see. The bluffer's guide to philosophy, sex, cricket, Bond, jazz, hiking............... None for life that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Well, lets hope non of the members of that book club are on here, cos you're going to be found out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruth Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 It seems unfair on the other members of the group to go with absolutely no intention of reading the book, just to prove some point to your flatmate. You don't know that the book they choose will be 'drivel' unless you actually read it. I'd say you'd do everyone a favour if you didn't go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 It seems unfair on the other members of the group to go with absolutely no intention of reading the book, just to prove some point to your flatmate. You don't know that the book they choose will be 'drivel' unless you actually read it. I'd say you'd do everyone a favour if you didn't go. Well that's rude. I think they will appreciate the insight that I bring. The fact that I have more interesting things to do than come up with that insight is irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emelee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Well that's rude. I think they will appreciate the insight that I bring. The fact that I have more interesting things to do than come up with that insight is irrelevant. What insight will you bring if you know nothing about the novel or the reading experience? What could you bring to the table that the other members couldn't google themselves, if they were interested? It is most definitely not irrelevant that you find the concept of a book club unworthy of your precious time. How would it look if I attended a costume party in my regular outfit because I found it to be nonsense to dress up and couldn't be bothered with it, but still wanted to attend because I wanted to prove to someone else that I could attend a "silly party"? You don't think they'd look down on me and wonder why the hell I wanted to crash their party? Or if I attended a knitting meeting without bringing anything to knit, I just wanted to prove to someone that I could be part of such a group and share the experience? It's just silly. And IMO, you are very rude to the people in the book club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 What insight will you bring if you know nothing about the novel or the reading experience? What could you bring to the table that the other members couldn't google themselves, if they were interested? It is most definitely not irrelevant that you find the concept of a book club unworthy of your precious time. How would it look if I attended a costume party in my regular outfit because I found it to be nonsense to dress up and couldn't be bothered with it, but still wanted to attend because I wanted to prove to someone else that I could attend a "silly party"? You don't think they'd look down on me and wonder why the hell I wanted to crash their party? Or if I attended a knitting meeting without bringing anything to knit, I just wanted to prove to someone that I could be part of such a group and share the experience? It's just silly. And IMO, you are very rude to the people in the book club. 1) If I went to a knitting club and didn't knit they would be grateful for somebody to speak to 2) They don't read at a book club, they talk about books. I am talking about the topic. How is that rude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emelee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 1) If I went to a knitting club and didn't knit they would be grateful for somebody to speak to 2) They don't read at a book club, they talk about books. I am talking about the topic. How is that rude? That you don't realize it by what we have written makes me think it's impossible to explain any further. Would you go debate a topic in a debate club without knowing facts? Without being interested in the topic you have signed on to care about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share Posted October 20, 2014 That you don't realize it by what we have written makes me think it's impossible to explain any further. Would you go debate a topic in a debate club without knowing facts? Without being interested in the topic you have signed on to care about? But I will know facts, facts that other people have told me. What you are saying is more akin to saying I shouldn't debate a topic in a debate club without having first hand knowledge of the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emelee Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Book discussions are not about knowing facts about a novel. That is assumed since it's assumed you've read it. What it's about is discussing how you felt reading it, what you liked best and what you had troubles with. It's about personal reading experiences. Not "did you know that the authors is known for repeating the symbolism of the cross in his novels?" or "one could interpret the author's upbringing to have a played a major factor in his writing". It's all about your personal reading and what you as a reader felt was compelling or what you didn't feel was described as well as some other part etc etc etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontalba Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 emelee, y'all are just beating your heads against a brick wall.....OP likes to stir the pot. Doesn't matter what you say, they will argue against it. Just for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Book discussions are not about knowing facts about a novel. That is assumed since it's assumed you've read it. What it's about is discussing how you felt reading it, what you liked best and what you had troubles with. It's about personal reading experiences. Not "did you know that the authors is known for repeating the symbolism of the cross in his novels?" or "one could interpret the author's upbringing to have a played a major factor in his writing". It's all about your personal reading and what you as a reader felt was compelling or what you didn't feel was described as well as some other part etc etc etc etc etc So what do you have to say about the people in this thread who go on Google and Wikipedia to find out more information about the book and where the story comes from? http://www.bookclubforum.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/13102-how-deeply-do-you-analyze-novels/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 I'm not sure why you keep this discussion going, as it's quite obvious that looking up facts about a book is a extra, which adds to your reading experience. You don't appear to be a book lover, so I'm not sure why you're here? As I said in the other thread, if your intention is to wind people up and cause problems, it won't be tolerated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emelee Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 emelee, y'all are just beating your heads against a brick wall.....OP likes to stir the pot. Doesn't matter what you say, they will argue against it. Just for fun. Yup. And I have now put OP on my ignore list. Funny enough, 2 months ago, no one was on that list. Now there are 5 people on it (4 of them not from BCF). Is it something in the air that makes people behave strangely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Stamper Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just looking for some lively debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSouthard Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 You can take suggestions with the people who read books. Otherwise forums are the best way to get knowledge. Be attentive on forums and do, a discussion about books to know more. You can also post your doubts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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